Does anyone know why Yuba is so low.

[littleham491]

With the amount of snow and rain we had I can't see a reason for it to only be 19% full. What am I missing?
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[morcey2]

[quote littleham491]With the amount of snow and rain we had I can't see a reason for it to only be 19% full. What am I missing?[/quote]

Part of the reason is that the sevier river drainage didn't get the same amount of snowpack as the rest of the state. It was still above average but not by much. On top of that there was a short really warm spell in march that dumped a lot of the showpack. And Yuba was basically empty (2-3% full) at the start of the real runoff. There's talk of Yuba being poisoned to get rid of the northern pike which would be made easier with lower water levels. I don't know if that's true, but I keep hearing it from multiple sources.

Matt
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[littleham491]

Thanks, I didn't realize that area didn't get pounded with snow like the rest of the state.
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[Fishrmn]

[quote morcey2] There's talk of Yuba being poisoned to get rid of the northern pike which would be made easier with lower water levels. I don't know if that's true, but I keep hearing it from multiple sources.

Matt[/quote]

It's true.

http://www.richfieldreaper.com/public_no...dd5f6.html



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[morcey2]

[quote Fishrmn][quote morcey2] There's talk of Yuba being poisoned to get rid of the northern pike which would be made easier with lower water levels. I don't know if that's true, but I keep hearing it from multiple sources.

Matt[/quote]

It's true.

[url "http://www.richfieldreaper.com/public_notices/article_2ef209fc-14d6-11e7-be38-2ff4cafdd5f6.html"]http://www.richfieldreaper.com/...38-2ff4cafdd5f6.html[/url]



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Sorry, but I don't believe anything coming out of Richfield. I spent too much time there when I was younger. []

I wish them luck in actually getting rid of the carp. I've never fished Yuba but I've fished most of the Sevier below it all the way down to Deseret. I think that if they could get rid of the carp in all of it, it would become a great fishery, but I doubt that would happen anytime soon if ever. There's some good fishing there, depending on the year, but it could be better. And a conservation pool in both DMAD and Gunnison Bend would help also.

Matt
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[Fishrmn]

If Richfield was the source of the plan, I would be doubtful too. They're not. It's the UDWR, and the USFWS. The only reason to have it in the Richfield paper was to allow public comment. I'm pretty sure it's gonna happen.

I don't expect that they'll get rid of 100% of the carp either. But if they can get them down to a reasonable level, add 50,000 adult Yellow Perch each year for 3 years, plant a few 100,000 Walleyes every year for about the same amount of time, put Wipers on the list, and there's a good chance that there will be a fishery that people will actually utilize. I suspect they might consider sterile Walleye to be able to avoid some of the boom and bust issues that have plagued Yuba in the past.



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[utahgolf]

Without a conservancy pool, a mud puddle is pretty hard to manage.
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[Anglinarcher]

[quote utahgolf]Without a conservancy pool, a mud puddle is pretty hard to manage.[/quote]

And only the carp will do well in the remaining mud puddle.

[Fishrmn]

True enough. But if the Walleye can be controlled, then the Perch can make a comeback a whole lot quicker than if the apex predator is uncontrolled. One or two years of reproduction without predators would be enough.

As it is now, they planted 50,000 adult Yellow Perch and they disappeared almost overnight. All that was accomplished was to feed the Northern Pike and encourage them to spawn more hungry mouths to feed.




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[Fishrmn]

Otter Creek is at 93%. Piute is at 44%. Yuba is at 19%. Doesn't look like there's much water anyway. But if you were going to poison Yuba, you'd manipulate the water level any way you could to make it as low as possible when you put the rotenone in. Then maybe a little bit of a flush afterward to send any surviving carp down the Sevier.



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