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[size 2][font "Comic Sans MS"][black]Looks like Bait_Caster, Scottieb, and myself will be headed for Lake Powell this coming weekend. I am in hopes that I can get some good tips/tricks/tactics from those of you who are successful fishing that big pond. I am especially curious about the best ways to rig up anchovies for best success. I've heard of some way that anchovies are rigged up where the hook is through the head and then the line, or something, is tied to it's tail. Anyway, I'm looking for good advice on chovie rigging.[/black][/font]
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][black]I am also interested in any honey holes you could suggest.[/black][/font]
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][black]Also, does anyone have any suggestions for cheep motels in the area? We will be launching at Bullfrog. [/black][/font]
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I am heading out the following weekend. Doug Miller did a good segment couple weeks ago that gave some good info. Also waynes words is good.
http://kutv.com/outdoors/local_story_266184252.html
http://kutv.com/outdoors/local_story_266183614.html
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[url "http://www.wayneswords.com/lpfish.htm"]http://www.wayneswords.com/lpfish.htm[/url]
Probably already been here but just in case.
Have a fun and safe trip.
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One thing that can help your anchovies to stay on your hook longer is to put a lot of salt in with them wile they are frozen and after they melt it makes them tuffen up and the salt help the bite.
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Wrong time of the year for anchovies. Topwater, topwater, and more topwater. Lucky Craft Sammy's and Zara Spooks are the order of the day.
Every place has slowed some, except the mouth and in the San Juan arm. On top boils arn't as frequent, but the fish are there. The Stripers just don't have to trap the shad on top. The Stripers are coming up to nail topwater baits from below(see the Doug Miller thing). Use your graf to find shad, and the Stripers will be there. Gas is expensive at Powell, and you need to travel about 30 miles from the marinas to get into the better hunting grounds.
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I don't know if it will work this time of year of not, but a John Pauly Rig is one way of rigging anchovies. Click on Benedict Arnold.
[url "http://www.powellstripers.com/default.cfm"]Link to JP Rig[/url]:
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]Cheap anything at Bullfrog? Ya right! LOL! There is ONE place to rent rooms there at the Bullfrog Resort. I don't know how much the rooms go for. They also have an RV park at around $40 a night, a tent campground for $18 a night, and a free primitive camping area 3-4 miles down a washboard road from the ramp.[/size][/black][/font]
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]Who's boat are you taking? Yours? If you are taking your boat (the Gregor) you will have a tough time doing anything but trolling. The boils will be there but they are not up very long. Your range is extremely limited so going down lake into less pressured areas is out. If you're taking a larger boat, you may increase your options. Remember, Lake Powell can throw some nasty wind and waves at you so straying to far from home with the wrong boat could prove unhealthy.[/size][/black][/font]
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]Contrary to some people's opinion who NEVER troll, JP rigs can catch fish anytime of year. go to [/size][/black][/font][url "http://www.powellstripers.com/"][font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]http://www.powellstripers.com/[/size][/black][/font][/url][font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3] for all the info on JP rigs. There is also an animation on how to rig the anchovie on the hooks. You can also e-mail Kent Jorgensen and he will hep you out. JP rigs to buy are pricey but if you are, at all, handy at tying knots, you can tie your own. Rig up your baits and store them on ice while fishing.[/size][/black][/font]
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]We trolled the walls just south of Halls Crossing and the Mokei Wall with fairly good results. Both are close to Bullfrog Bay but still a 3-4 mile run.[/size][/black][/font]
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]The stuff you use for wipers will work on stripers. If you are fortunate to get into some boils, you can fish it just the same. Don't be surprised if you get lures right into the middle of boils and don't get hit. They can be picky even when boil feeding. Being able to cast a long distance will increase your chances at hooking up. Long rods, heavier baits to help cast farther and being able to actually cast accurately long distances are a must. [/size][/black][/font]
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]There is a lot of pressure on the boils in Bullfrog Bay with several boats chasing them. Fast boats are there first. If you're not the first one there, you usually don't get a shot at them. If you can get away from the pressures of Bullfrog and get where there are less boats and pressure, your chances increase.[/size][/black][/font]
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]Learn to speed jig. If you can't be the first to a boil, drop a heavy jig and jig for a few minutes. The secret is to get the boat STOPPED, so your lines will drop straight down. Drop 40-60 ft, jig two or three times than reel up like a scalded ape on fire. Stripers have a hard time resisting fleeing bait.[/size][/black][/font]
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]Bait fish. 1/2 oz egg sinkers with a 2/0 bait hook or a 1/2 oz jig head with bait attached can work. Try night fishing. Go out at night, tie up to the tire ring off the house boats in Bullfrog or Hall's Crossing. Drop a green underwater light just below the boat. Wait, wait and wait. The shad will come into the light and hopefully draw in the stripers. Sometimes the best night bites are in the wee early morning hours so stay out if you can. Sometimes it pays big dividends othe times its for naught.[/size][/black][/font]
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]Troll crankbaits just like you do at Willard. In the right situations, crank can be effective on stripers. Troll the points and underwater ridges where fish hold. Troll schools that are suspended.[/size][/black][/font]
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You give the old kastmasters speed jig a try? Any success?
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]We had jigs, kastmasters and others ready to go. The problem was, the guys I was fishing with had never speed jigged and really didn't want to. If the boils weren't roaring, Ron wanted to slow troll JP rigs. That's his goto Powell method and with good reason. It does work. It's just not very exciting. Fall on Powell is Topwater and boil fishing! Another factor that happered us was wind. Wind does not let jigs stay vertical especially when you are not anchored.[/size][/black][/font]
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]Don't discount speed jigging. I have knocked the heck out of stripers on Lake Mead and a little on Lake Powell. Suspended or "resting" stripers, who will go down on the bottom after a feeding frenzy to digest their meal, are very susceptible. A good place to look for resting fish are in the 70-100 depth right on the bottom in the mouth of coves they've been feed at. Give it a try. It's a technique that can wear you out but can also catch fish when other techniques won't produce.[/size][/black][/font]
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When we were down there a few weeks ago I found out some interesting facts. There is a fee to get into the Bullfrog area, one fee per person and one fee for your boat. This fee is good for one week unless you buy the season pass, BLM can give you the prices but Wiperslayer and I paid 26.00. The motel at Bullfrog was at least $100.00 a night and BLM has the phone number for that as well, the price might have gone down since we were there. There is also a motel at Tickaboo(spelling?), and the last I checked it was around $80.00 a night. I can't tell you the exact distance Tickaboo is from Bullfrog but it is around 10 miles. Gas at Bullfrog was 3 dollars a gallon for regular. BLM gave you some good advise on everything else, good luck, I hope you guys get some good weather.
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We were there the week of 9/18 to 9/23. We didn't chase boils. They never lasted more than a minute or two. Instead we stayed back to see what direction they appeared to be heading. Then fished "ahead" of them.
If we guessed right we caught fish with a 1/4 oz jig and a 3" pearl or white curly tail grub. No boil, just covering a lot of water. I would bet any "shad like" crank would work to.
We did have several boils we threw into. It didn't seem to matter what you threw then. Nice fish every time.
If boat traffic is light and no wind try Moqui, about 8 miles up lake. Stay close to the main channel. No need to go way in. (see pic)
My favorite spot is Slick Rock canyon. I was catching smallies all day long using the same jigs. Slick Rock is about 17 miles down lake.
Don't forget about catfish either. I had some worms left from the Berry I took along and caught kitties too.
If there is a lot of boat traffic, I can't help much. We had very few boats Mon, Tue, Wed and had great fishing days. In fact Wed may be my best day this year. On Thur, Fri and Sat we had a hard time fishing anywhere. Even 20 + miles from Billfrog. I wish Jet Skiers could be used as bait...[  ]
I hope this helps. I heard the boils would be coming back when the water cools and the people leave. I am planning a trip back mid October.
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I was there last weekend. My wife and I stayed at the Ticaboo Resort, 12 miles from Bullfrog, $69.95 / night or around $75 with room tax. Plenty of boat parking, and electrical hookups to recharge your trolling batteries. There's also an inconvenient store there (they open late and close early) and a little cafe that has a very limited menu. We enjoyed staying there and would do it again. We made reservations only a few days before going - - it's really slowing down and even launching and retrieving the boat was no problem, almost no waits. Don't count on the boils - - you may see some or there may be none in the area. Trolling JP rigs very slow along the walls, 40-60 feet deep usually, will probably get you some stripers, and if you find a school you should be prepared with a rod set up with a spoon - - 2 oz. Hopkins or large Kastmaster for example. I haven't tried the night fishing yet, but it's also sometimes very productive. You can get the green fluorescent lights at Cabela's. Most fishermen use GPS to backtrack to their camp or the ramp in the dark.
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