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[unsure][font "Poor Richard"][green][size 3]The Whirling disease seems to be spreading rapidly in the Utah waterways. For more information click this link:[/size][/green][/font]
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[#505000]make Utah a catfish state!!! [ ][/#505000]
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As the article states we can credit our former Gov. with the initial spread of the disease form the Leavitt family private fish operation. That entire fiasco was a disgrace, especially the fact that no one was held responsible for it. I guess that is the way it goes when you are the Gov.
I wil second CP's catfish idea!
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this is a very  thing to happen to one more of the rivers in utah.
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I must have missed the River that was mentioned?
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it's huntington river that comes out of electric lake.
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AT LEAST THE WALLEYE ARE SAFE.
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Maybe they will start planting more of the other types of fish.......
So much for this being a trout state any more.......
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they are safe for now.
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[size 1] Quote:[size 1]AT LEAST THE WALLEYE ARE SAFE. [/size]
[/size] [font "Times New Roman"][#ff4040][size 3]Yes they are, that is until I start fishing.[ ][/size][/#ff4040][/font]
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I like the avatar CP, Doe anyone have a pic of a UTAH trout with whirling disease? I've never seen one, but don't catch many trout.
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![[Image: Fish%20with%20whirling%20disease.jpg]](http://www.fisheries.org/education/fisheries_techniques/Chapter14/Fish%20with%20whirling%20disease.jpg)
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Why is everybody freaking out!!! If there is whirling disease in a few waterways that doesnt mean it will spread everywhere in the state like wild fire does it?? I love my trout and if they are taken away I would get depressed. This isnt going to effect the high mountain lakes is it??
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[cool][#0000ff]Right now the problem exists mainly in waters that receive planted rainbows. Although there have been a few isolated cases of brown being affected, they are not as susceptible. Same with cutts and brookies. [/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]What DWR and other agencies want to prevent is the preventable spread of WD by carelessness. Planting affected fish is only one way it spreads. Other ways are through water and mud residues on watercraft, anglers' boots and other gear from infected waters to non-infected waters.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]It is highly unlikely that WD will show up in the higher lakes of the Uintas. Not many hatchery trucks can make it up those trails and I think the bulk of the fish planted up there are non-rainbows, planted by aerial drops.[/#0000ff]
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Fish planted in the High Uintas are mostly cutthroat, one of the most suceptible to WD. Whirling disease is spread mostly by anglers, so the disease could make it anywhere an angler has fished that has the parasite and then travels somewhere with a live parasite. They are hardy little buggers. It will only be a matter of time before WD is everywhere. The thing Utah really has going for it, at least when it comes to battling the disease, is that many of the trout in the state are planted by the DWR at stage beyond when they are most prone to developing the disfigurations. There are some wild trout fisheries, but so far they have staved off WD pretty well, mostly because they are brown trout and they are they most resistant to the disease.
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Well that stinks. Let me ask you this, do the fish in the high mountain lakes die off each winter and then need to be air droped again each year. When do they start airdropping, and also what is this about the governer's family and there contribution to the spread of whirling disease?
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[cool][#0000ff]The reason fish are air dropped is not to replace winter kill, but to restock waters that have been heavily fished and where there is little or no natural reproduction. Just helping nature. Each lake is air stocked as fisheries people determine that it needs help. The fry planted by air are very small and fall slowly enough that they have a high survival rate. Aerial stocking can occur anytime there is open water.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]The governor's family had a private trout hatchery in which WD got started in Utah. They shipped infected fish (knowingly or unknowingly) to several government operations. Only after the disease was detected in these other hatcheries was it traced back to the Huntsman operation. Most articles are charitable, referring only to a "private hatchery" and not naming the esteemed family name.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff][url "http://library.kcc.hawaii.edu/praise/news/eh152.html"]WD ARTICLE[/url] [url "http://www.wildlife.utah.gov/fishing/whirlingdisease.html"]PREVENTING SPREAD[/url][/#0000ff]
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Interesting stuff, now why in the heck would the Huntsman's need there own fishing hatchery, do they own a lot of lakes and streams and land or what? The nerve, and then they taint the DWR fishies, thats messed up. But this is Utah and people in high political places get away with murder out here if you ask me.
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Tubedude -- no disrespect, but you keep getting things a bit messed up.
1st, cutts are very susceptible (as pointed out by another poster). The spread of WD is something that has slowly moved across the United States. Brown Trout evolved with the disease, and have some immunity to it. Other salmonids can be devastated by the disease. However, it severely affects naturally reproducing populations. Look at Yellowstone Lake. It's one of the biggest tragedies that WD is responsible for. Evidence is pointing more, and more towards WD being the culprit of the loss of Yellowstone Cutthroat (vs. Lake Trout). Newly hatched fish are the most susceptible to the disease.
Utah has some state-of-the-art facilities now to provide disease free fish -- but many of our river systems (and lakes, reservoirs) are already infected. Once infected, there isn't anything you can do, except deal with it.
2nd, it was Leavitt, not Hunstman. Also, the Leavitts were buying fish illegally (no permits) and bringing them across state lines to their Utah hatcheries. I have a feeling that they weren't purchasing the permits for a reason (infected fish). The Leavitts DID NOT provide fish to the UDWR. But, the Leavitt's hatcheries were in the same system (Fremont River) as the DWR's Loa hatchery. It was the Leavitt's hatcheries were to blame for the introduction of WD to Uath. The gracious governer even authorized to have a load of infected fish delivered to a private pond in norhtern utah -- known infected fish. But, the keys are that they NEVER sent fish to any government operations. However, they did infect the same system that the UDWR had their own operation on.
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[cool][#0000ff]That's the trouble with getting info "second hand". I knew I could count on you to set me straight. [/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Just goes to show how things get started and where they can go. There have been a lot of issues on our board that get out of hand because of misinformation and uninformed opinions. One of my favorite experessions is "You can always tell an opinionated person. But, you can't tell him much."[/#0000ff]
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