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Birch Creek/Woodruff
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Fished Birch Creek Saturday morning and had one bite that I matched up with a 7 inch Tiger.Talk about sloooooow!!! We did much better bank fishing it in the early summer and fall.Oh well...we headed over to Woodruff and finished up the day doing well on the cutt's.Was impressed with the overall size of the fish there.No monsters but quite a few 13-15 inchers.Ice was about 6 inches or so....no worries..a game warden even had the nads to walk out and check our liscence's.I asked him about the two pole permit going state wide this year and he said he hadn't heard anything about it.Anybody know for sure??
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#2
The 2007 "Fishing Guide" (proc) is available on DWR's website. Here is an excerpt:

Use two fishing poles statewide: If you buy a second pole permit, and you have a valid fishing license, you can now fish with two poles at any public fishing
water in Utah during its open season. You may NOT take two limits of fish, however. A second pole permit is a 365-day permit that’s valid for 365 days from the day you buy it. Please see page 10 of this guide for more information about fishing with two poles.

The info from page 10:
Fishing with a second pole
Utah Admin. Code R657-13-7
If you have a valid second pole permit, and a valid fishing or combination license, you can fish with two poles at any water in the state during its open fishing season. You may keep only one limit of fish, however. A second pole permit does NOT allow you to keep two limits of fish.
Second pole permits are available for $15 at wildlife.utah.gov and from license agents and Division offices.
A second pole permit is a 365-day permit, but you must also have an unexpired one-day, seven-day or 365-day Utah fishing or combination license in order to use it (a second pole permit is not valid unless it’s accompanied by a valid fishing or combination license). Only the person to whom the second pole permit is issued can use the permit.
If you’re under 14 years of age and would like to fish with a second pole, you must have a valid one-day, seven-day or 365-day Utah fishing or combination
license, and a second pole permit.
When fishing with a second pole, you must be within sight of the equipment
you’re fishing with (this distance cannot exceed 100 feet).

That should clear it up!
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#3
Thanks djole!! I asked that Game Warden if he was sure about not being able to use two poles and his answer was " I go to all the RAC meetings...I think I should know".Well...he's never even heard of BFT so what's that tell you!
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I have a question for you, does this also apply to Bear Lake? I asked an Idaho fish cop and he said no. What is your take on it? thanks

Bodine
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I've found that a lot of game wardens don't know too much of anything thats going on anymore. I recently asked a game warden about the "Walk in access program" and he had no idea what I was talking about. I don't mean to put down game wardens at all, infact im leaning towards a bachelors in wildlife science and conservation. I hope to be a game warden one day. I just cant figure out why they aren't informed of all the stuff thats going on here. My biggest worry is that the game wardens at Strawberry are going to be giving a lot of tickets come January 1st to us guys that are planning to fish with two poles. The game wardens at the Berry are ruthless! Last season my buddy had two poles with him and decided to drill him a new hole and leave one pole is his already drilled hole while he drilled a new one. He put his other pole down the new hole and walked back to get his other hole and take it to the new hole. So technically he had two poles in the water at the same time. I know this is wrong but a $200 fine, thats ridiculous. I just think they should be a little more kind to their fellow outdoorsmen.
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Good point, Hook Jaw. Just make sure to have a copy of the 2007 guide in your truck and ice bucket, in case that kind of thing happens!
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How would the CO know the guy's intentions. All he saw was 2 poles being used. I don't blaim the Officer for that one.
I also agree with having a copy of the fishing regs with me when I'm fishing. It takes away a lot of guess work.
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The problem with a lot of CO's is that a lot of times they are given the ability to decide whether to ticket or warn, this can be a good thing but it also after time seems to affect them to remember exactly what the law is in detail.........that's my 2 cents on the issue. Strawberry is always a hot place for them to bust people, with the slot and fish limits they know sooner or later they will always bust someone, just got to know and follow the rules I guess.
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#9
Sorry, but I don't have any sympathy for your friend. What he did was a clear violation of the law and unfortunately for him he got caught doing it.
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#10
umm wonder what would happened if he had 2fer?? Im sure it was a honest mistake and bad timing.. good luck all and tight lines!!!
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#11
I totally agree that it was a big mistake on my friends part. I just thought it was a little harsh to give him a ticket after he watched the whole thing with his binoculars, Especially a $200 fine. I think a warning would be more appropriate. I know that the wardens have to deal with a lot of scumbags out there, but a lot of them treat everybody like scumbags. If they had a better attitude about things I would respect them a lot more. For instance if a game warden came up to me and asked me how the fishing was and what we were catching and so forth, and then asked for my license, I wouldn't have a problem. It's when they charge up and demand your license and go through your stuff like you stole it all that bugs me. I don't know maybe I just always run into the cranky ones.
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Most I have ever encountered are pretty good. I did run into one out duck hunting several years ago that decided that he could start rummaging through my truck looking for lead shot. We had just loaded b buddies boat in the back of the truck and had everything put away. The FC drove up and asked to see our licenses, it was me my buddies and my little brothers (1st year for my little bro) well me and my cousin checked out ok, but my brother did not sing his stamp. Well he let him off after a good toung lashing and than saw that my truck doors were open. Just went up folded the seat forward and started going through my truck. I politely asked him what he was doing and he said looking for some shot to verify it was steel. At that point I advised him that I would be more than willing to get my shot out to be checked, however he needed to get the hell out of my truck without a warrant, as I did not give any permission for him to be in their. At that point he stomped off and left.

I have to say that this is the only bad run-in I have ever had.

Matt
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#13
I agree. Most are nice and respectful as long as you are the same to them. If you get an attitude you will get one back. I know quite a few of the local wardens and they, for the most part, are extremely nice people. Even if you deserve a ticket and are still being respectful, they will remain respectful. As a matter of fact, i have a warden in Morgan county helping me find the boundaries for some land i have been hunting. The so called "land owner" gave myself and a friend a razz of sh!! for hunting on state owned property. Called the sheriff and the hole nine yards. It is times like that you are glad to be on the f&g's good side. They will usually help with anything you need. I have them stop and check on me all the time to make sure everything is alright. I think the real a-hole moved to Idaho and is probably causing all sorts of problems.
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