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Since I was a little boy I have always just fished off shore with a treble hook attached to a swivel with the clear bubble filled with water above it to make it sink. I would cover the hook with powerbait, usually rainbow, orange or lemon twist and then use some sort of scent. I have been somewhat successful with this technique but I am interested in knowing some other techniques to try. The biggest rainbow I have caught was about 4 pounds. I wan't to try and beat that this year. I realize people are reluctant to give up their secret techniques but I am just asking for some tips. I'm going fishing for 4 days this weekend to Panguitch Lake and would like to try them out.
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The first thing I'd recommend would be a small jig under a slip bobber.
There are many videos online (that tube place) to show how to fish a slip bobber. Pair one with the right weight jig, set the depth you want, and cast it out.
When you retrieve, the jig will rise up towards the bobber as well as move forward. Give slack and the jig will swim back down. It can be a deadly action.
Pick up a few jigs with plastic minnow bodies, sized to match the capacity of the float. Dose one with scent, or add a tiny piece of worm or cutbait.
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Try replacing your treble hook at the end of a 3-4 foot leader, by tying on a fly. Let a little water out of the bubble so it floats. You can then cast and retrieve at your own pace. It can be effective and a lot more fun than simply waiting for something to pick up your bait.
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Sounds like we grew up the same way, except this was pre-PowerBait, so we used Velveeta or similar cheese or night crawlers. You were already given one good idea. Another suggestion would be to purchase a few simple lures that you can cast (spoons, Kastmasters, and various spinners) and cast and retrieve. Try varying your speed of retrieve and varying how long after you cast before you begin your retrieve.
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try airing up a night crawler on about 15in. leader with a slip sinker and a
single hook size 8. it's always caught fish for me off the bank.
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Thanks for the tip Rocky...I just watched a few videos on the slip bobber method. I have a question though. Let's say that I want to set my bobber stop to fish at 15 feet down or whatever.....doesn't that stop get caught up in the eyelets of your fishing pole when trying to cast?
[quote RockyRaab]The first thing I'd recommend would be a small jig under a slip bobber.
There are many videos online (that tube place) to show how to fish a slip bobber. Pair one with the right weight jig, set the depth you want, and cast it out.
When you retrieve, the jig will rise up towards the bobber as well as move forward. Give slack and the jig will swim back down. It can be a deadly action.
Pick up a few jigs with plastic minnow bodies, sized to match the capacity of the float. Dose one with scent, or add a tiny piece of worm or cutbait.[/quote]
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I agree kentofnsl....in my case it was zekes garlic and cheese that I used since powerbait wasn't around.....I'm excited to try some of these different techniques. How many casts on average do you give it before you try another lure? I have tried lures a few times before and maybe I am just not patient enough but after about 10 or 15 casts I give up and go back to powerbait. And how do you know which lures to use? I am interested in trying these new things now that I can fish with 2 poles at all times. I can leave one rigged with powerbait and the other rigged to experiment.
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My go to lures are spoons. I like red with white stripe, orange(fire) with white stripe. I usually cast out and let it sit and count to about 8 or so depending how deep I want it to go then start retrieving. I try slow or medium type retrieves to trigger a strike. Also olive woolly buggers tied on a 6' leader behind your swivel retrieved slowly works great too.
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Fly and a water filled bubble.Try different depths till you get some hits.4 0r 5 feet of leader slow retrieve with some stop and start.Never has failed me.
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How many casts on average do you give it before you try another lure? I have tried lures a few times before and maybe I am just not patient enough but after about 10 or 15 casts I give up and go back to powerbait. And how do you know which lures to use?
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No set number of casts, but I often would move down the shoreline to try different areas. When I first started casting lures all I owned was a few spoons in fluorescent orange and silver so it either worked or it didn't. Now that one can use two rods, there is no reason to give up casting lures very quickly because you can have another rod in the water rigged with bait. Just try a few different ones and see what works. A Jakes Spin A Lure is also easy to cast.
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[quote dbswoot]Thanks for the tip Rocky...I just watched a few videos on the slip bobber method. I have a question though. Let's say that I want to set my bobber stop to fish at 15 feet down or whatever.....doesn't that stop get caught up in the eyelets of your fishing pole when trying to cast?
[quote RockyRaab]The first thing I'd recommend would be a small jig under a slip bobber.
There are many videos online (that tube place) to show how to fish a slip bobber. Pair one with the right weight jig, set the depth you want, and cast it out.
When you retrieve, the jig will rise up towards the bobber as well as move forward. Give slack and the jig will swim back down. It can be a deadly action.
Pick up a few jigs with plastic minnow bodies, sized to match the capacity of the float. Dose one with scent, or add a tiny piece of worm or cutbait.[/quote][/quote]
Use a slip bobber with a peg in it. You set the bobber by lopping a piece of your line under the peg. When you catch a fish the line pulls out and the bobber slides down the line to your swivel or jig.
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There are different styles of bobber stops, some are a "dogbone" type that you thread the line through multiple times, or a rubber stop that you thread on once. You can reel either of these small devices right through the line guides without noticing most of the time. A small bead is often used between the stop and the bobber for a surer stop, then the bead remains outside the line guides when you reel it in. These types of stopper allow you to keep a fixed depth as long as you like, and can be changed if you need to by sliding them around later for different locations. Then you don't need to reset it every cast.
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As mentioned, there are many kinds of bobber stops. The very simplest are the pieces of pre-tied string on a short piece of soda straw. Thread your line through the straw, then slip the straw out of the knot and tighten the knot around your line. Trim the ends a bit, but leave them about ΒΌ" long to help with the "stopping" ability. They cast through most rod guides almost without notice.
Slip a small bead on the line next (try to use one just too big to fit through your top guide) and then the float. Finally, the jig or baited hook at the very end.
Fifteen feet is pretty deep to try to cast a slip-bobber rig. It'll take a long time and a lot of slack to allow the jig to sink that far. Half that much is about the most that I try to us. There are lots of fish cruising the mid-depths, and many others prefer to look up to find prey. You won't miss many by not getting all the way to the bottom. Also, you'll hit bottom during the retrieve a lot sooner the deeper you set the bobber.
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I use a narrow, natural rubber band as a bobber stop...you can put it on after you're fully rigged and it costs much less than a real bobber stop. I just loop it around the line, pull it through itself tight and then snip it off, leaving the knot. The colored rubber bands smell funny so I'm assuming some of that would broadcast into the water, consequentially I do not use them. Another thing that I've heard people use as a bobber stop is little snips of black or natural surgical tubing, tied the same way. That's the reason you will see it in searches for terminal tackle on Amazon.
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thanks [url "http://www.bigfishtackle.com/cgi-bin/community/community.cgi?do=user_page;pg=user_profile_view.html;username=dbswoot"]dbswoot[/url] for starting this post there is some good stuff here.
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Great topic! I'm learning a lot. For years my go to has been the fly and bubble. Using a wet fly and full bubble was posted above and I fully agree. I've also had good success with a dry fly and half full bubble (that's how I caught the rainbow in my profile pic). Works great on those mountain lakes with shore plants that make it hard to use a fly rod. Make sure you have something on the fly to help it float. The weight of the bubble trends to pull your fly under when they hit the water.
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For trout and catfish I have been using the same setup for a number of years with fair success. I like to use a 'carolina' rig with an egg sinker threaded above the swivel that moves freely on the line. I typically use circle hooks with powerbait or the new garlic power eggs for bait. When the fish takes the bait it does not feel the weight of the sinker and begins to swim away. Because of the nature of a circle hook most of the time the fish end up setting the hook themselves. You can use a regular 'J' hook as well, but you gotta be fast on the take.
Looks like you have a few new things to try.
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Wow! Thanks for the tips everyone. I think I just emptied the shelves at sportsman's with all the gear I bought haha. I'm excited to leave tomorrow and give all of these things a try!
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I love this thread and hope it grows to great lengths as I almost exclusively shore fish. Thanks for starting it, dbswoot.
I can't really add anything, except that I spent a lot of time researching bass fishing this past fall. I've only caught one so far, but the set up is different than for trout, using different bait(s) and tackle (though many techniques overlap for all species, of course). Anyway, I recommend you youtube a couple of bass fishing videos and try to add some of those strategies to your routine. When I fish a body of water that I know has trout and bass, I'll try rigging my pole various ways and targeting different fish.
The only bass I've caught thus far was on a drop shot rig, with a wacky-rigged plastic worm about 15 inches above the weight. Lotsa bites, but only one catch so far.
I also recommend you find the thread (I think it's still on the first page of topics) on minnows and read TubeDude's 44 page booklet he has shared. This opens up an entire new world, especially for us mainly-from-the-shore types who crave new techniques and experiences. I can't wait to go get me some minnows!
Good luck!
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Thanks! I will definitely find that minnow thread you were referring to. I have done really well in the past using minnows off shore at otter creek however I tend to have a hard time getting them to stay on the hook. especially when they aren't frozen. I totally forgot about minnows lol....looks like I may have to go back to sportsman's....
I have always wanted to try some of the plastic baits, but from a young age my grandfather and father engrained in my head that those only caught fisherman and not fish hahaha....Youtube tells me different though  ....I was going to buy a luckycraft to try since youtube says they work good at the berry (I figure if it works good at the berry, it would probably work well at panguitch as well) but they are like 20$ [crazy] So maybe next time on those....
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