Wheeler or snowmobile on echo?

[dwayneb]

You guys that have been on Echo did u see any wheelers or sleds...just wondering if the ice is thick enough for either
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[copple2]

I wouldn't take one yet! They edges are a little soft still. No snow on top of the ice.
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[CROSSINEYES]

not yet..
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[fishing4thehog]

My understanding is that no 4 wheelers or snowmachines are aloud on Echo. I could be wrong. Plz let me know.
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[dubob]

[quote fishing4thehog]My understanding is that no 4 wheelers or snowmachines are aloud on Echo. I could be wrong. Plz let me know.[/quote][font "Comic Sans MS"][#800000]You are wrong. I've been on there many times with my snowmobile and never had an issue with it. Echo is a BoR property, not a state park. Getting a machine ON the ice can be problematic, but is not restricted. I generally enter at the south beach area rather than the campground, but either will work.[/#800000][/font]
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[fishing4thehog]

Thank you for setting me straight. I have always been told other wise. Good to know. Now I'll make a trip.
Thanks again..
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[captainjac15]

I was out there today. probably 20 groups fishing the lake. I did see one brave soul with a wheeler out there. I personally would not yet risk it with MY sled. The ice is a solid 4.5" with 1" of grey frozen snow ice on top. Very slick, studs required for sure on any kind of machine. I personally would wait a week and see.
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[Deepwateroff]

That would have been me on the black wheeler. I'm not completely sure of the math here, but this is the math I use to tell myself its safe. I weigh about 200 pounds, a little more all bundled up. When I walk all my weight goes on one foot then the other. My wheeler weights about 500 pounds plus 200 more when I'm on it. To make the math easy lets call it 800 pounds. Divide that by 4 there is 200 pounds on each tire. at 1000 pounds its 250 pounds. Each tires surface is a little smaller than my feet, but pretty close with the pressures at 3 pounds. And yes I know walking gives you better feed back as to whats happening, an you have more time to react....
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[captainjac15]

You seem to have the math figured out. The ice was solid. Like I said... you are a BRAVE soul, hahaha. I'm just not that ballzy. I spent too much on my machine to take the chance yet. Good on ya though, hope you caught plenty of fish.
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[Deepwateroff]

In the words of the "idiot" that walked across Echo and caught a bunch of fish a few days ago "It's only stupidity if it doesn't pay off. " [cool]
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[captainjac15]

[quote Deepwateroff]In the words of the "idiot" that walked across Echo and caught a bunch of fish a few days ago "It's only stupidity if it doesn't pay off. " [cool][/quote]
Hahaha... well played. Didn't call you an idiot though. I called you "brave", there is a big difference there, haha. Hope we meet up out on the ice one of these days.
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[Deepwateroff]

Sorry, I did not mean to imply that you call me that. However if it wouldn't have worked out I would have been the first to call me that... that is if I lived through it! And to answer your question the fishing was great!!! All the pearch you wanted off the bottom or 16 to 20 inch bows at 8 to 10 feet every 10 to 20 minutes.
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[kj]

Deep... your math is correct. I tell everyone that you are actually safer on a wheeler because of the 4 foot print sizes than you are on foot. Even more so with a snowmobile... but my brain convinces me to stay off the ice until it is 7 inches thick with my machines. Call me chicken. I don't know the weight of my snowmobile, but I have 2 ski's in the front that equal out about 216 square inches and a back track that works out to be about 864 square inches. Totaled I have over 1000 square inches to hold up say 1000 lbs of machine which includes me and my wife on the back. That would be about 1 lb per square inch. By the math, the snow mobile is much safer than being on foot. As a FYI..., if you get the speed up, a snowmobile will run across open water as long as you keep it moving. I was told they used to run them across Deer Creek Res. Again... I am not willing to test it with my machine... but I would on someone else's come summer time if someone wants to donate the machine.
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[Fishin_dad]

I went to echo for my first time today. I don't know the area well, but where I walked in you couldn't get a wheeler or snowmobile there because the gate was closed and the access was walk in only. obviously there is another entrance where "deep" got his machine in, but I don't know where it was. Super slick today. Wind literally blew me off the lake. Stopped at cabelas on the way home and picked up some ice anchors for next time. Ice was loud and sounded like it was cracking beneath me as I walked, but I could see plenty of people out there walking where I was headed. I was scared until I punched the hole and saw how thick the ice was. But absolutely no snow on top.
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