12-17-2004, 06:49 AM
Well first of all let me say thank you for expressing your views here. They are most welcome; it is my hopes you will leave this site with a fore sight of what you are about to do should you succeed in your endeavors to have this range closed down.
Some of your facts are misleading none the less the courts have the whole tallies of dates times permits and other materials pertaining to this case.
I have been in this area of which you live for more than 40 years. I know exactly where you live and I am full aware of the full noise levels that arise from that range. I do venture the lakes and rivers and trails of this park frequently. I would not be in the least bit surprised if the noise levels that exceed the limits of which you describe did not come from gun fire vary near your home. Which means your neighbors are shooting deer out their windows. This is not the first time this has happened on your street nor will it be the last.
As for the noise level on the golf course, it has already been documented that the expressway it self exceeds the 65 decibels all the way up to 100 decibels on most any given day. Televisions crews proved this several years back when the first controversies about the gun range arose 10+ years ago. They them selves sat there and monitored the noise level with out any gunfire at all and found the noise levels reaching and spiking levels I have mentioned. Not only do they reach those levels there are two other golf courses east of Kensington on I-696 that were also placed on surveillance for noise pollution with the exact same noise levels and spikes.
I realize you truly believe you are doing what you think is best for this park; I beg you heed these words I lay here before you each and every one. For if you skim through these words you will be condemning yourselves to something that you would never believe would ever happen in a million years.
Fact, true the beach traffic is nowhere near what it used to be, reason, that beach is now an alcohol free zone. I remember the road blocks past the gatehouse baring cars from going in because the lots were completely filled, a car would have to leave in order to allow another to enter. Yes those were the glory days of that beach.
You say I don’t live where you live, this is true, but I live in the exact same conditions in which you live yet I don’t get to benefit from it. I live ¼ mile from 3 gun ranges, the shooting begins at 10 am and runs to 10 pm. These are privet ranges to which I cannot afford to join.
You say that the barrels of the fire arms exceed the houses that are structured to keep shooters aiming at targets, well this tells me that you have never stepped foot on this gun range. Not only dose the barrel not reach through the housing provided I have serious doubts that any one could throw their gun completely through the housing with out hitting timbers designed to keep hand guns and rifles pointed down range.
True the skeet range is new with in the last 6 years. A week before the range was closed down was the last time I was at that range since the summer of 1998. I was surprised excited and impressed to see such a beautiful setup.
Now for your history lesson; as I said, I have been around for 40+ years so what I am about to tell you is first hand experience. 10 miles north east of your location we had a gun range. A man falsified information and shot his own house with a 30-06 rifle to get the range shut down. Well he succeeded. But what he didn’t know was what was going to happen afterwards. The gun range was the parks number one moneymaker. Meaning everything else the park had to offer was there solely by the grace of the gun range and when that range was gone so did all the benefits that the range provided leave as well. The employees to maintain the park were no longer needed and were let go, the materials to up keep the roads are no longer affordable so now the roads are filled with gaping holes to which are filled with sand and gravel because the park can no longer afford to fix them. Much of the equipment needed to maintain the park also has expired and never was replaced.
I bet you haven’t a clue as to what is going on with this park now do you? And if you tell me yes it will tell me something about you that you don’t want to let out. I will get to that later.
This parks now that it can no longer sustain itself has been selling off bits and pieces of its property year after year to developers. This once desired park with all its splendor and all its nature trails, ball diamonds, structures available for lease are going to the wind. The man who had the range closed down has sold his house and moved elsewhere. His house will soon be swallowed by a massive subdivision or even a giant shopping mall because our governor and those who will soon follow will not put out money to maintain a park that cannot pay for itself.
I am giving you full benefit of the doubt here in that I am taking for your word you are a resident there. And if you are a resident you too will want to protect what you have there. Because with out it you too will be sold out to developers who will swallow up your road your houses and place in a giant shopping center along with massive new homes.
You stand at the crossroads. And only a person who wants the park to go belly up financially would want that gun range closed. The DNR will not replace this multi million-dollar range. The state can’t afford to replace it.
This however doses not mean you don’t have the upper hand. You are in a position I would love to be in. you fully realize that you are in a position to reap the benefits of concessions. Meaning what that park has to offer you could have for free. There are cabins for rent, organizational camping available, and canoe camping available, there are pavilions available for you to reserve. All for free!!!!!
The best of what that park has to offer is there for the taking free of charge year after year yet you hope to close down what keeps those trails you walk upon open. MIND BOGGLING!!!!!
This is what can happen, you may not think so, but you are in the middle of what is called public domain. The DNR should it so chose buy you out of house and home and tear down your houses. Granted you will receive replacement or full market value, this will be the end result of your endeavors.
If you think it cant happen, hang on to your stirrups!!! I saw 300+ homes bought out by a developer to build a shopping mall at a price less than half of what it cost to move from their homes. The homeowners went to court to fight this and keep their homes. And lost to developers who wanted a mall. These people were tossed out on the streets to find other places to live, most could not afford to buy new or used homes but in the courts generosity did give the residents a year and a half to move before they built the Lakeside mall. Twas a
story but my friend a true one……
With this knowledge set before your actions from this day forward will tell us who you are and what your plans truly entail for this park.
Only some one who wants to see the park fail will want to close the gun range. so take your time and think it out all the way through.
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Some of your facts are misleading none the less the courts have the whole tallies of dates times permits and other materials pertaining to this case.
I have been in this area of which you live for more than 40 years. I know exactly where you live and I am full aware of the full noise levels that arise from that range. I do venture the lakes and rivers and trails of this park frequently. I would not be in the least bit surprised if the noise levels that exceed the limits of which you describe did not come from gun fire vary near your home. Which means your neighbors are shooting deer out their windows. This is not the first time this has happened on your street nor will it be the last.
As for the noise level on the golf course, it has already been documented that the expressway it self exceeds the 65 decibels all the way up to 100 decibels on most any given day. Televisions crews proved this several years back when the first controversies about the gun range arose 10+ years ago. They them selves sat there and monitored the noise level with out any gunfire at all and found the noise levels reaching and spiking levels I have mentioned. Not only do they reach those levels there are two other golf courses east of Kensington on I-696 that were also placed on surveillance for noise pollution with the exact same noise levels and spikes.
I realize you truly believe you are doing what you think is best for this park; I beg you heed these words I lay here before you each and every one. For if you skim through these words you will be condemning yourselves to something that you would never believe would ever happen in a million years.
Fact, true the beach traffic is nowhere near what it used to be, reason, that beach is now an alcohol free zone. I remember the road blocks past the gatehouse baring cars from going in because the lots were completely filled, a car would have to leave in order to allow another to enter. Yes those were the glory days of that beach.
You say I don’t live where you live, this is true, but I live in the exact same conditions in which you live yet I don’t get to benefit from it. I live ¼ mile from 3 gun ranges, the shooting begins at 10 am and runs to 10 pm. These are privet ranges to which I cannot afford to join.
You say that the barrels of the fire arms exceed the houses that are structured to keep shooters aiming at targets, well this tells me that you have never stepped foot on this gun range. Not only dose the barrel not reach through the housing provided I have serious doubts that any one could throw their gun completely through the housing with out hitting timbers designed to keep hand guns and rifles pointed down range.
True the skeet range is new with in the last 6 years. A week before the range was closed down was the last time I was at that range since the summer of 1998. I was surprised excited and impressed to see such a beautiful setup.
Now for your history lesson; as I said, I have been around for 40+ years so what I am about to tell you is first hand experience. 10 miles north east of your location we had a gun range. A man falsified information and shot his own house with a 30-06 rifle to get the range shut down. Well he succeeded. But what he didn’t know was what was going to happen afterwards. The gun range was the parks number one moneymaker. Meaning everything else the park had to offer was there solely by the grace of the gun range and when that range was gone so did all the benefits that the range provided leave as well. The employees to maintain the park were no longer needed and were let go, the materials to up keep the roads are no longer affordable so now the roads are filled with gaping holes to which are filled with sand and gravel because the park can no longer afford to fix them. Much of the equipment needed to maintain the park also has expired and never was replaced.
I bet you haven’t a clue as to what is going on with this park now do you? And if you tell me yes it will tell me something about you that you don’t want to let out. I will get to that later.
This parks now that it can no longer sustain itself has been selling off bits and pieces of its property year after year to developers. This once desired park with all its splendor and all its nature trails, ball diamonds, structures available for lease are going to the wind. The man who had the range closed down has sold his house and moved elsewhere. His house will soon be swallowed by a massive subdivision or even a giant shopping mall because our governor and those who will soon follow will not put out money to maintain a park that cannot pay for itself.
I am giving you full benefit of the doubt here in that I am taking for your word you are a resident there. And if you are a resident you too will want to protect what you have there. Because with out it you too will be sold out to developers who will swallow up your road your houses and place in a giant shopping center along with massive new homes.
You stand at the crossroads. And only a person who wants the park to go belly up financially would want that gun range closed. The DNR will not replace this multi million-dollar range. The state can’t afford to replace it.
This however doses not mean you don’t have the upper hand. You are in a position I would love to be in. you fully realize that you are in a position to reap the benefits of concessions. Meaning what that park has to offer you could have for free. There are cabins for rent, organizational camping available, and canoe camping available, there are pavilions available for you to reserve. All for free!!!!!
The best of what that park has to offer is there for the taking free of charge year after year yet you hope to close down what keeps those trails you walk upon open. MIND BOGGLING!!!!!
This is what can happen, you may not think so, but you are in the middle of what is called public domain. The DNR should it so chose buy you out of house and home and tear down your houses. Granted you will receive replacement or full market value, this will be the end result of your endeavors.
If you think it cant happen, hang on to your stirrups!!! I saw 300+ homes bought out by a developer to build a shopping mall at a price less than half of what it cost to move from their homes. The homeowners went to court to fight this and keep their homes. And lost to developers who wanted a mall. These people were tossed out on the streets to find other places to live, most could not afford to buy new or used homes but in the courts generosity did give the residents a year and a half to move before they built the Lakeside mall. Twas a
story but my friend a true one…… With this knowledge set before your actions from this day forward will tell us who you are and what your plans truly entail for this park.
Only some one who wants to see the park fail will want to close the gun range. so take your time and think it out all the way through.
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