03-16-2011, 08:08 AM
[quote TopH2O]A total prohibition against the use of live fish for bait is necessary in Utah due to the unique nature of our fisheries. Utah has many reservoirs that have little or no reproduction of the trout species. The Utah DWR has hatcheries that raise trout to stock in the various lakes and streams to supplement the low reproduction rates. It makes economic sense to raise the trout to fingerling size and then let them grow in the reservoirs. Small trout complete with the other fish in the reservoirs for the available plankton. Other non-game fish also feed on the plankton, so the competition is bad for the young trout.
If Utah were to allow the use of live fish for bait, we would soon see shiners, fathead minnows, chubs and all sorts of minnow species in all of our lakes competing directly with the small trout we all want to become large trout.
Hi, Mike
Thanks for taking the time to respond and all you others too.
First, I will admit that I tend to be abrasive to some and that I tend to think differently than a lot of Gov. employees. So if I offend you , that isn't my intent but I just don't have the self control to not point out what I feel is an obvious flaw in logic.
First, I assume that you must have missed my point about having to catch the bait at the body of water that you are using it at. This is what most fishermen do in my limited experience in 4 different states. So that would address the problem you raise with introducing anything where you would be fishing.
Second, because of the first issue, I think every one would agree that if you caught the bait there then it would actually help cut down on the competition with the fingerlings by killing the minnows for bait which is what you are trying to do.
So based on this, your logic doesn't make the best sense. I think the only reason that backs up the DWR's logic is the few dumb A'...s that just don't care or understand that do break the rules and it is just easier to ban everything to make it easier catch the bad twits.
That's where you and I disagree. I don't feel that punishing every one to catch a few is reasonable. It just goes further and further in all areas of our lives. There is almost always other ways to find a balance then to just take a total ban . I understand that this seems like a attack on the DWR and possibly you but as citizens , I feel we have to make our voices heard or I can't complain when I don't agree with public policies.
thanks again all, Curt
PS. If you would like to discuss some options that might work, feel free to email me anytime. Its in my profile.
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If Utah were to allow the use of live fish for bait, we would soon see shiners, fathead minnows, chubs and all sorts of minnow species in all of our lakes competing directly with the small trout we all want to become large trout.
Hi, Mike
Thanks for taking the time to respond and all you others too.
First, I will admit that I tend to be abrasive to some and that I tend to think differently than a lot of Gov. employees. So if I offend you , that isn't my intent but I just don't have the self control to not point out what I feel is an obvious flaw in logic.
First, I assume that you must have missed my point about having to catch the bait at the body of water that you are using it at. This is what most fishermen do in my limited experience in 4 different states. So that would address the problem you raise with introducing anything where you would be fishing.
Second, because of the first issue, I think every one would agree that if you caught the bait there then it would actually help cut down on the competition with the fingerlings by killing the minnows for bait which is what you are trying to do.
So based on this, your logic doesn't make the best sense. I think the only reason that backs up the DWR's logic is the few dumb A'...s that just don't care or understand that do break the rules and it is just easier to ban everything to make it easier catch the bad twits.
That's where you and I disagree. I don't feel that punishing every one to catch a few is reasonable. It just goes further and further in all areas of our lives. There is almost always other ways to find a balance then to just take a total ban . I understand that this seems like a attack on the DWR and possibly you but as citizens , I feel we have to make our voices heard or I can't complain when I don't agree with public policies.
thanks again all, Curt
PS. If you would like to discuss some options that might work, feel free to email me anytime. Its in my profile.
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