05-15-2012, 03:01 PM
[quote Jacksonman]I was referring to PBH who kept discounting our opinions because we were just selfish, stupid anglers who don't have biology degrees.[/quote]
wow.
Slow down Jackson. Take your emotions down a level, and think with a level head for a moment.
I never said anyone was "stupid". I never said anyone needed a "biology degree". I did say that many anglers (not just you) are selfish. I would include myself in that category: I DON'T want tiger trout in Strawberry because I value rainbows and cutthroat more. That is being selfish. If you can't look in the mirror and see that your request is also selfish, then you have a problem.
I also never said that your opinion doesn't matter. In fact, to the contrary, I've suggested to duckdog that he contact some of the fisheries managers (Ward, Wilson, Slater, and Cushing) so that he COULD discuss his opinion with them. How is that discounting angler opinion?
The problem with "anglers" is their memories. They rely on them [memories]. They don't rely on historical data. Sure, some may keep a journal -- like bassrods. That's great. But DWR biologists have years and years worth of numbers and data and stats, etc. I trust those guys with their data far more than I ever trust an anglers memory. Hell -- I caught 30" rainbow trout back in the 80's out of Otter Creek.
So, Jackson, I apologize if you took my remarks as condescending towards you and your opinions. You have your opinions, and I have mine. It's good to know that we have the DWR to step in as a mediator and manage these resources for both of us.
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wow.
Slow down Jackson. Take your emotions down a level, and think with a level head for a moment.
I never said anyone was "stupid". I never said anyone needed a "biology degree". I did say that many anglers (not just you) are selfish. I would include myself in that category: I DON'T want tiger trout in Strawberry because I value rainbows and cutthroat more. That is being selfish. If you can't look in the mirror and see that your request is also selfish, then you have a problem.
I also never said that your opinion doesn't matter. In fact, to the contrary, I've suggested to duckdog that he contact some of the fisheries managers (Ward, Wilson, Slater, and Cushing) so that he COULD discuss his opinion with them. How is that discounting angler opinion?
The problem with "anglers" is their memories. They rely on them [memories]. They don't rely on historical data. Sure, some may keep a journal -- like bassrods. That's great. But DWR biologists have years and years worth of numbers and data and stats, etc. I trust those guys with their data far more than I ever trust an anglers memory. Hell -- I caught 30" rainbow trout back in the 80's out of Otter Creek.
So, Jackson, I apologize if you took my remarks as condescending towards you and your opinions. You have your opinions, and I have mine. It's good to know that we have the DWR to step in as a mediator and manage these resources for both of us.
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