05-17-2012, 04:07 PM
[quote Jacksonman]It would make sense to reduce tiger plantings at lakes that see very few angler hours and produces few big fish and often winterkills, and plant them at a lake like the berry.
The other option is making millions of dollars and donating a fish hatchery at Strawberry ...[/quote]
Jackson - Good discussion so far.
some thoughts concerning your comments above:
While on the surface, the reduce efforts in stocking waters you mentioned above might sound good -- but wouldn't they actually be counterproductive? I mean, if you lower stocking in waters that have frequent winterkills, wouldn't that mean that those waters would then turn into an empty fishery with no fish at all? I'm not sure what waters the DWR stocks tiger trout in that has this problem (winterkills), so it might not actually be an issue.
Further, why in the world would we ever want the DWR to cut stocking rates based on size potential of a water? Please don't confuse this with the magic of population density as it relates to fish size. I think we're talking solely "potential" here, correct? So if a water just doesn't have the "potential" to grow large trout, would you really consider reducing it's stocking quota on that basis?
Finally, angler hours: wouldn't reducing stocking possibly further reduce angler hours? maybe those lakes need additional stockings? I don't know -- I'm just thinking out loud, which I imagine you were as well.
As for Strawberry and a hatchery -- I thought that they already had a "hatchery"? Haven't they already created spawning channels for the cutthroat to hopefully increase natural reproduction of the cutts -- the staple trout that Strawberry is managed for -- as well as for the kokanee?
Typically, you get the hatchery request from bass anglers. What many anglers forget is that some of the best "hatcheries" the State has are our lakes and reservoirs! Utilize them! (obviously, you're not going to get more tiger trout through this method)
Certainly, some of those questions could be better answered by a fisheries manager.
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The other option is making millions of dollars and donating a fish hatchery at Strawberry ...[/quote]
Jackson - Good discussion so far.
some thoughts concerning your comments above:
While on the surface, the reduce efforts in stocking waters you mentioned above might sound good -- but wouldn't they actually be counterproductive? I mean, if you lower stocking in waters that have frequent winterkills, wouldn't that mean that those waters would then turn into an empty fishery with no fish at all? I'm not sure what waters the DWR stocks tiger trout in that has this problem (winterkills), so it might not actually be an issue.
Further, why in the world would we ever want the DWR to cut stocking rates based on size potential of a water? Please don't confuse this with the magic of population density as it relates to fish size. I think we're talking solely "potential" here, correct? So if a water just doesn't have the "potential" to grow large trout, would you really consider reducing it's stocking quota on that basis?
Finally, angler hours: wouldn't reducing stocking possibly further reduce angler hours? maybe those lakes need additional stockings? I don't know -- I'm just thinking out loud, which I imagine you were as well.
As for Strawberry and a hatchery -- I thought that they already had a "hatchery"? Haven't they already created spawning channels for the cutthroat to hopefully increase natural reproduction of the cutts -- the staple trout that Strawberry is managed for -- as well as for the kokanee?
Typically, you get the hatchery request from bass anglers. What many anglers forget is that some of the best "hatcheries" the State has are our lakes and reservoirs! Utilize them! (obviously, you're not going to get more tiger trout through this method)
Certainly, some of those questions could be better answered by a fisheries manager.
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