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No. Marina, No Ice, No Skunk 12-11-18
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12-13-2018, 12:32 AM
[#0000FF]Glen, my friend, I am only a mere apprentice compared to your perchin' prowess. But I know we both appreciate a good plateful of perchies.[/#0000FF]
[#0000FF] [/#0000FF] [#0000FF]Did your new rod recipients like their goodies? [/#0000FF] [signature]
12-13-2018, 12:34 AM
[quote SBennett]I don't like how you said "for a return bout next year....maybe".[/quote]
[#0000FF]Hey, there are a lot of things I don't like...but not many have to do with fishing. Rest easy my good man. There was nothing sinister in my statement. Just meaning I might like to meet that feisty fish again when he gets a little bigger.[/#0000FF] [signature] 
12-13-2018, 12:50 AM
They loved them. They are very excited to get on safe Ice. Thanks again. They realize not everybody gets a tubedude pole. They are now among the Elite. Seriously we appreciate ya.
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12-13-2018, 01:50 PM
You da man Pat! Nice haul of jumbos anyone would be proud of and your didn't have to drive to ID. Anyone that can catch that many perch there probably knows that pond well and is quite the fisher.
Question--when you tie on your flig with the slip weight do you use a swiveling in front of the weight? What length of leader do use on the flig and is it a lighter weight than your main line? [signature]
12-13-2018, 02:44 PM
"Question--when you tie on your flig with the slip weight do you use a swiveling in front of the weight? What length of leader do use on the flig and is it a lighter weight than your main line?"
[#0000FF]I am attaching a diagram of the rig I use most often. It shows that there is a small barrel swivel (or split ring) to stop the sliding sinker. [/#0000FF] [#0000FF] [/#0000FF] [#0000FF]The length of leader and the weight is where some of the finesse options come in. On some days it takes some experimentation to get it just right. On Willard, we have found that a 12 to 14" leader is about right on most days...for most species. But if you are fishing for targets that appear to be holding a little higher off the bottom on sonar, you might do better by lengthening the leader and fishing slow enough to allow the flig to keep the bait up higher.[/#0000FF] [#0000FF] [/#0000FF] [#0000FF]My Nanofil main line is usually 8 or 10#. The flig leader is usually 14# Excalibur cofilament. That is heavy enough to avoid the abuse of being wrapped up in catfish spines but does not seem to be too heavy or spook finicky biters. It is also just a bit stiffer to help avoid tangles. If you move too fast with poorly rigged baited fligs there can be some line twist. Takes some experience to learn how to rig the bait to reduce twist.[/#0000FF] [#0000FF] [/#0000FF] [#0000FF]When I am fishing flig rigs at Starvation or Deer Creek...or other catless venues with perch, walleyes and trout...I will drop leader size down to 6 or 8#. And if the water is extremely clear and the fish are being picky you can even go lighter...or use fluoro.[/#0000FF] [#0000FF] [/#0000FF] [#0000FF]With a proper rig and attractive bait you will get bit. And with the slider rig you are able to see even the lightest inquiry. After that you have to know when to set the hook. In the case of active fish in warmer water that is not usually an issue. They grab and go, usually hooking themselves in the process.[/#0000FF] [signature] 
12-13-2018, 06:10 PM
Thanks for another great report, fishing lesson, and pictures. I'm glad you got one more in before the darkest part of winter[
 ]I was going to say that is the best looking bunch of perch I've seen come out of Willard, but then I read where you already pointed that out, at least for recent history. I guess I said it anyway. Nice work! [signature]
12-13-2018, 07:06 PM
[#0000FF]Thanks. Glad to provide some fish porn for your enjoyment.[/#0000FF]
[#0000FF] [/#0000FF] [#0000FF]Yes, that catch of perch was my best in some time. I catch the occasional stray during other months of the year, but get more from about the first of November to iceup. Many times I catch multiple catfish and maybe one or two perch. This trip I caught multiple perch and only one catfish. Okay by me.[/#0000FF] [#0000FF] [/#0000FF] [#0000FF]Here is a picture from about 3 years ago...with 7 perch and one nice walleye. I actually caught 3 or 4 more perch but they were only about 8 inches and went back to grow bigger. On this trip my smallest perch was just under 12 inches. Some problems are better to have than others. [/#0000FF] [inline "WILLARD FALL MIX.jpg"] [#0000FF][/#0000FF] [signature] 
12-13-2018, 07:11 PM
Another great report and pics Pat. I think I'll break the boat out one more time and give it a go tomorrow. Were you fishing shower than normal with those colder temps, as far as how fast you were moving, while over those perchy marks?
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12-13-2018, 07:40 PM
That's another great picture. That walleye looks as much like a football as those perch!
Thanks for sharing. I need to get a picture like that one of these days! I'm shut down until Dec 28th, when my youngest son gets married. If the weather stays like it is, I may take the boat out right after that. I know that isn't what the ice fishermen want to hear, but it's starting to look like it might work out that way. It looks like there is more open water at the UL State Park Marina today than there was before this last little snow storm. If the inversion doesn't build, it might all be gone by Christmas. [signature]
12-13-2018, 07:41 PM
[#0000FF]I was thinking about hitting it again tomorrow too, but Saturday looks a bit warmer. Let me know how you do. I typically never fish on weekends, but I somehow doubt that the lake will be overrun with the power squadron on Saturday. Maybe a few more quacker whackers.
[/#0000FF] [#0000FF] [/#0000FF] [#0000FF]Almost all of my hits came while I was either moving very slowly...or completely still. And, as I mentioned, the bites were sometimes very light. I tried slow dragging both with fins and with electric set on low. Nary a sniff. But I think if I was swimming around in 36 degree water I wouldn't be moving very fast to chase down my dinner either.[/#0000FF] [#0000FF] [/#0000FF] [#0000FF]I only got one or two bites without first seeing some "interesting" marks on sonar. And, of course, I did not get bit every time I saw "potential" customers. But seeing something besides shad does help keep the level of expectation up.[/#0000FF] [#0000FF] [/#0000FF] [#0000FF]I worked out as far as 16 feet deep, but did not see much on sonar past about 14 feet. Virtually all of my action came at 13-14 feet. However, as we both know, every day is a new day and conditions can change.[/#0000FF] [#0000FF] [/#0000FF] [#0000FF]Good luck and PM me when you get back. [/#0000FF] [signature]
12-13-2018, 07:52 PM
Thanks for the added info Pat and I will of course let you know how we do. I noticed Sat is looking like a warmer day and I agree, little doubt there will no one out there.
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12-13-2018, 08:28 PM
Pat,
Did you try any drop shot rigs? Just curious....I imagine plenty of fish staging and the flig has a different action due to the floatation... [signature]
12-13-2018, 09:20 PM
[#0000FF]Hey Bro, howya doin'? You should repost a couple of the pictures of your catches early this year.[/#0000FF]
[#0000FF] [/#0000FF] [#0000FF]I did try a couple of things on drop shot. Had one hit and missed it. Nothing for a long time after that so I went back to fliggin'. [/#0000FF] [#0000FF] [/#0000FF] [#0000FF]I also tried your technique with the twister and worm. I think it might have been too fast for them.[/#0000FF] [#0000FF] [/#0000FF] [#0000FF]I am finishing up some new small fliglets that work well drop-shotting. Might try some of those on my next visit up there. [/#0000FF] [signature]
12-14-2018, 03:55 PM
[#0000FF]Dwayne called me and okayed my posting a couple of his pics from early 2018...just to show there are still some decent perch in Utah. Both of these pics were from waters within a half hour of his home in Ogden. The one from January was ice fishing. The one from February was from open water...after a warm spell opened it up. A couple of fish in the latter pic went just over 2 pounds.[/#0000FF]
[#0000FF] [/#0000FF] [#0000FF]Dwayne is a serious and knowledgeable angler. He often uses tactics and techniques not widely known to others. His skills are evident in the attached pics. [/#0000FF] [signature]
12-14-2018, 04:17 PM
TD and DB, thanks for sharing the pictures. Those are inspirational and awesome!
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12-14-2018, 04:17 PM
Thanks Dude, I really appreciate the info. I used to fish that way with a spinner rig-- like one would use with a bottom bouncer but with just a slide wight like you are using. Not sure why I haven't used it in a quite sometime but will have to rethink it.
Thought you might be interested in a little fish porn from yesterday--double limit along with a couple of 20 something browns. All perch were 9.5-11.25a and all were harmed for future dinners[ ]. It was good day on the northern waters! Then the work commenced--arrgghhh. Going to take a couple of days for my back to recover.[signature]
12-14-2018, 05:15 PM
[#0000FF]Naked fish pictures! Shameless. But cool...literally.[/#0000FF]
[#0000FF] [/#0000FF] [#0000FF]Nice work. Sore back serves you right.[/#0000FF] [#0000FF] [/#0000FF] [#0000FF]I have been working on some propeller blade flig models...for bottom bouncing or cast and retrieve. Caught a few cats on some of the earlier models but will have a wider range of options by spring. [/#0000FF] [#0000FF] [/#0000FF] [#0000FF][/#0000FF] [signature]
12-14-2018, 05:43 PM
Looks like a great day! Thanks for sharing.
Were you throwing back smaller perch or were they all in that size range? [signature]
12-15-2018, 12:22 PM
About 80% were that size. Some small dinks, large dinks and wanna be jumbos, 8-9s, but for the most part the school was made up of that size fish. Good thing was it was shallow enough to let the small ones go unharmed. They were hitting the top fly with perch meat on the slack about 75% of the time. It was a fun day of steady biting large perch. Don't get any better than that! Sometimes ya just luck out that way and sometimes, more often than not, you have to work to get just a few.
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