06-05-2019, 01:27 AM
Saw this on KSL and thought some of you would be interested in it:
https://www.ksl.com/?nid=1109&sid=465657...-reservoir
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https://www.ksl.com/?nid=1109&sid=465657...-reservoir
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Link to video of perch structure in RP
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06-05-2019, 01:27 AM
Saw this on KSL and thought some of you would be interested in it:
https://www.ksl.com/?nid=1109&sid=465657...-reservoir [signature]
06-05-2019, 01:58 AM
I saw that too. Could be pretty nasty trolling into one of those.
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06-05-2019, 01:35 PM
They don't look real snaggy. Would like to find them ice fishing. I wonder if they will give you the way points for where they dropped them?
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06-05-2019, 01:44 PM
i agree, they look like they are made of plastic or PVC so they shouldn't be too bad. Did you see the GPS screen in the video, kind of looks like most of them are out in the middle, just slightly off of the ramp. Not sure why they wouldn't give the public the way points but one of us will need to ask i guess.[
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06-06-2019, 04:23 PM
When I call them I'll let you know, if I don't hear from you beforehand. Have you ever seen any waypoints for Willard structure? Or did they even have GPS when they placed it? Can you imagine the pile of ice fishermen that would accumulate around them when everyone finds out where they are??
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06-06-2019, 05:05 PM
I fished Rockport on Friday and Monday, and these noticeably popped up from time to time on sonar (very clear in down imaging). Looked like trees, but knew that couldn't be so figured it was some kind of artificial structure. Didn't know they had just been placed. I think they were all in deeper water of 70 feet or more.
Would not be hard for someone to mark them as a waypoint with GPS coordinates. By the way, on Friday we caught 48 fat, feisty, and healthy trout and 35 on Monday trolling white and black buggers and streamers. [signature]
06-06-2019, 10:55 PM
Hey Curtis....tks for the link...good to see back-up proof for what The DNR guy told me back in early May.....sounds way good to me...sure hope it works..maybe they could use some more of something like that at Echo also.....but I'm glad they're trying it at R.P.....
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06-07-2019, 03:54 PM
I think that is the plan, if it works well there, we will likely use it in other locations, like Echo.
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06-07-2019, 04:20 PM
Thanks for the info and the report, good to hear they are that easy to find, I hope they put a few up lake toward the inlet.
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06-07-2019, 04:38 PM
They could sure use these in yuba
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06-07-2019, 04:50 PM
[#0000FF]As a veteran perch jerker...through all seasons of the year...on many Utah waters...I gotta make a couple of observations. First, if they are for providing cover for young perch, why put them so deep in the lake? Baby perch stay shallow and hang out in shoreline vegetation or rocks until colder temperatures in late fall send them deeper. And while they are shallow is when they are preyed upon by small smallmouths and other predators. That is where and when they need the most protection.[/#0000FF]
[#0000FF] [/#0000FF] [#0000FF]Jordanelle is a good example of how young perch survive. From summer through fall you can find bazillions of perch fry hanging out in the flooded trees and brush around the edge of the lake. And you can find good numbers of large perch, smallies and other predators hanging around the edges.[/#0000FF] [#0000FF] [/#0000FF] [#0000FF]The flip side is Deer Creek. Only in high water years is there enough flooded vegetation and weed beds in the upper part of the lake to provide safe nurseries for baby perch. In lower water years you can observe wolf packs of underfooter smallies herding big schools of baby perch into shallow water and then slurping them up to the last one. [/#0000FF] [#0000FF] [/#0000FF] [#0000FF]By putting structure in only one area of the lake...at one depth...in lakes that typically rise and fall dramatically through the year...actual use and value are limited to potentially only a very small window each year...if any at all. Unless large numbers of the baby perch search out these deep water "improvements" they will derive no benefits from them most years.[/#0000FF] [#0000FF] [/#0000FF] [#0000FF]While living in Arizona I observed similar placement of artificial structure in several lakes. As with Utah Lakes, most Arizona impoundments are subject to great seasonal variations in depth. Consequently, any artificial trees placed in shallow waters early in the year are left high and dry later, and subject to removal or vandalism by dimbulb boaters.[/#0000FF] [#0000FF] [/#0000FF] [#0000FF][#0000FF][b]In many natural lakes around the country t[/#0000FF]hey have proven attractive and effective for providing cover both for younger and older fish. Lakes without great seasonal fluctuations make it easier to locate artificial structure in traditional holding and feeding areas. It is also possible to set up these structures in a variety of depths to make them useable during all seasons.[/b][/#0000FF] [#0000FF] [/#0000FF] [#0000FF]I applaud the efforts of DWR but I have reservations as to the real value they will provide over time...at least in the deep lakes with extreme annual depth changes. I think that some natural brush piles in the shallows would be a lot more beneficial to the perchlets. [/#0000FF] [signature]
06-07-2019, 05:57 PM
I agree Pat, that was one of the reasons I was wondering if they put some up lake, hopefully they do not only put them out in the middle. Of course if this is just one of many locations they plan on placing them, just to see how they do in various locations, maybe they don't want us to know every location they place them. If they are as easy to spot on Side Scan as was mentioned, maybe that will be the best way to find them. Do you think Chris Pennie would know something about this?
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06-07-2019, 05:58 PM
I think that would be a great place to try them and if they work out here, that could be the plan.
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06-07-2019, 06:17 PM
"Do you think Chris Pennie would know something about this?"
[#0000FF]Sent off an inquiry. Will post his response.[/#0000FF] [signature]
06-07-2019, 06:20 PM
Thanks Pat[cool].
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06-07-2019, 07:36 PM
[quote fishday]Have you ever seen any waypoints for Willard structure? Or did they even have GPS when they placed it? Can you imagine the pile of ice fishermen that would accumulate around them when everyone finds out where they are??[/quote]
No waypoints that have been publicly posted but of course anyone that fishes Willard a lot have some. No GPS when Willard was created back in the 60's, except for the military. Not sure how many folks know this but the majority of the dike at Willard, was created by dirt, that was dug up from the shore that was 100 or more yards away from the shore, so that created a lot of drop offs and edges that make up the majority of the structure around the lake. Some of it is close to the dike some of it is was so far away from the dike that there are roads that were used to truck it to the dike. [signature] |
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