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I've read a few posts here about red shiners, and apparently they're in a few reservoirs. I've also read several testimonials here about what a good bait they are. I was just reading that they're in Echo as well. I was just wondering which bodies of water they can be found in?
I'm assuming that they aren't naturally occurring, and they weren't planted by the dwr. Let's not start another discussion regarding bucket biologists or illegal transplanting, ok?
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Actually red sided shiners are native to parts of utah. Go to the utah department of natural resources website and click on the species link, then select vertebrates, and fish. You can select the red sided shiner from a list and get information about their distribution and life history.
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I get mine with a casting net at Strawberry.
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thanks twh. I had no idea.
And Kent, I believe that yours were some of the posts that got me interested in the subject. If only I had a casting net too. I feel lucky if I'm able to catch my own nightcrawlers.
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If you purchase one I can give you a link for some excellent online training on how to cast a net. I would even be willing to give you some personal coaching.
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That would be great! I checked them out on ebay a little while back, but I wasn't really too serious. Right now I have some smelt and frozen perch in my freezer that my wife isn't too crazy about. She wanted to throw them away last week, but I talked her out of it. She won't even let me keep my worms in the house, but I think that once it gets warmer I'll have to sneak them into the basement.
One question concerning the casting nets, which I haven't figured out yet. Do you throw the net on top of the fish, or do you wait for the fish to swim over the net?
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You cast (throw) a casting net on top of the fish. It works well unless the shiners are over about 1 1/2 foot deep, and then most will be able to escape before the net reaches them. Be aware that the Proclamation states, "Cast nets must not exceed 10 feet in diameter (5-foot radius)."
Here are some excellent on-line videos about using casting nets.
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BTW -- I have filled out the form at this location on numerous occasions and I have never received any junk mail, or junk emails.
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[cool][blue][size 1]Hey Kent, if memory serves, you actually practiced netting nightcrawlers before you graduated to shiners.[/size][/blue]
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Shh -- let's keep that our own little secret. Also, I forgot to give you credit for finding that excellent video on the Internet. By watching that video I was finally able to catch those crawlers without the net smashing them, and I was able to move up to going after those shiners. Ask Road how easy it is to cast a casting net.
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Shiners are good bait! I have mainly used them ice fishing at strawberry and fish lake. You can catch them if you can learn how, or you can often buy frozen ones at Sportsmans.
Careful if you catch them, though. Someone once told me not to try using them the same day as bait as they may try and bust you for using live bait.
Also, with that perch you have, I think the rules are that you can only use perch meat for bait on the lake it was caught in. Don't try using perch meat on Strawberry or you could get in trouble there, too.
Just some friendly hints.
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If you don't have any live minnows in your possession you shouldn't have any problems. I have been checked before and there was no concern as long as the minnows in my possession were dead, and as long as I didn't have any game fish minnows. The fresher the minnows the better they are for bait. The Proclamation reads, "Fishing is permitted with any bait, except ... live fish... Lawfully taken nongame fish shall be either released or killed immediately upon removing them from the water..."
Not sure if you were referring to me on the perch statement, but I don't have any perch, but I'm quite certain that it would be legal to use perch caught on one body of water on another body of water (as long as it is legal to use perch as bait on that body of water); however as BearLakeFishGuy pointed out, to prevent the spread of disease, one should not use fish for bait in different drainages.
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The perch comment was referring to the person that had them in his freezer.
I just read the proclamation and they have clarified it a bit. Perch can only be used as bait on certain lakes. Looks like they are the lakes where perch can be caught, but I would check the proc. to be sure before trying to fish with it.
I couldn't find reference to shiners in there, but I'm sure you are right. I just don't want to give them any reason to hassle me. 
I would actually like to catch a bunch there at strawberry when heading out. They do make great bait.
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Hey addicted, I caught the perch at Echo with the intention of using them as catfish bait at Echo. I understand your concern. I usually read the proclamation each time I go out to make sure I'm not doing anything wrong, just to cover my butt. There's lots of rules in that thar proc. I can't wait to see it in another 10 years. I'll have to hire a lawyer to read it to me.
I'd love to get into cast netting, but probably not this year. I still have to get my wife set up with a pontoon and accessories, plus motors and batteries, plus getting other assorted fishing stuff. I'll have to buy my bait for now.
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[crazy][font "Arial Black"][red][size 2] Hey Mateo, you sure you want to go there? LMAO, you saw what happened to my question. Haha[/size][/red][/font]
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Hopefully, my answer was a tad more accurate this time around!
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Hey, I'm not a trouble maker like you, trying to get people to transfer fish willy nilly. Sorry, willy nilly is all that came to mind.
That's why I wanted to clarify that I wasn't trying to start a flame war. I just wanted unbiased information.
OTOH, I saw pbh recommending to some others on another board to come check out this one, so I guess he's not too ticked off.
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