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Sorry everyone for asking this question multiple times on separate posts, but a few of you are writing about fishing at Jordanelle and using "blades." What do you mean by "blades"? Do you mean spinnerbaits? If so, what size do you recommend for Jordanelle smallies?
I'm thinking about purchasing some from Cabellas and am looking for advice. By the way, these same spinnerbaits will be used at Deer Creek and a few other Utah bass waters, so I'm really looking for some good suggestions before I purchase a spinnerbait or two. As many of you know, there are so many shapes and sizes for spinnerbaits that I'm a little foggy on which ones I should purchase.
Thanks,
PF
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Actually, since we're on the topic of bass lures, what type of crankbaits do you recommend for Jordanelle and other Utah bass waters?
Thanks for all your comments.
PF
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If you're buying new bass lures, DON'T forget the senkos or senko imitations in 4" or 5" sizes, sparkle smoke and chartreuse colors are great to start with. They kill them at Deer Creek and Jordanelle.
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I'm already a big fan of senkos, but I appreciate the suggestions on colors. I'm just trying to round out my bass lineup with some spinners and cranks and don't quite know what to buy.
I do hear a lot of good things about shad raps and jointed shad raps. Lucky Craft looks like a very good brand of lures, but boy are they expensive. Can't afford 'em!
Any more suggestions?
PF
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[#804000][size 2]First before you go buying stock at Cabelas, find out who are the real bassfisherfolks are. [/size][/#804000]
[#804000][size 2] Second, think natural colors here in Utah(forage, what do they eat?).[/size][/#804000]
[#804000][size 2] Lucky Craft Pointer 78's will catch multiple types of fish ie bass, walleye, trout...Ghost minnow, ghost brown, and aurora black are the best for around here.[/size][/#804000]
[#804000][size 2] "Blades" or spinnerbaits, again stick to natural colors like silvers or greys, some whites, and few chartreuse types(Remember the lakes around here are very clear, even when it looks stained it might be only a foot or so on top).[/size][/#804000]
[#804000][size 2] Senkos, stick to crawfish/dads colors. [/size][/#804000]
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[cool]Great info, tomegun! I'm a rookie basser myself, so this info is much appreciated. When you said instead of Cabelas look at a real bassfisherman supplier, I'm assuming you meant BassProshops? If not, who else did you mean? I need to order their catalogue. Haven't seen one in years.
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[#804000][size 2]Hold on there, pard! Cabelas is the best place for stuff and getting it to you quickly.[/size][/#804000]
[#804000][size 2] You misunderstud me. Find the real bass fishermen! There are a few on this site who will give information. Some folks catch bass by accident, which is very good in its own right. But, if you are serious about bass...get a second job because doing it the right way ain't cheap and very time consuming. I've been hardcore for over three years, and let me tell you this..."the learning curve is a bitch". What we see on tv ain't how one fishes out west. [/size][/#804000]
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[font "Garamond"][size 3]Hmmm. I hear some people catch walleye by accident too.[/size][/font]
[font "Garamond"][size 3]I think I would rather be lucky than good somedays though.[/size][/font]
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I agree with Tomegun. The learning curve it tough. The other part of that statement is that having the right bait doesn't mean you are going to get bit either. The bait is only about 40% of the equation or less. Being able to make the bait look vulnerable and appealing is more important than the color or make of the bait. It's easier to use the correct bait to get good results, but there's no guarantee! The real fishing starts in a couple more weeks.....after the spawn is gone! Nails
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[#804000][size 2]Amen brother. The real fishing starts soon. Its very easy to psyche yourself too. Plus, it can very hard on the body.[/size][/#804000]
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[font "Garamond"][size 3]But the key Nails is getting on the fish in the first place. As we all know, that is often easier said then done. (Depth is a huge factor.) Only then can you really start worring about bait, color, presentation and stuff. You gotta find em first![/size][/font]
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[cool][blue][size 1]Allow me to toss in a couple of words of support. Serious bassers really do have to "pay their dues"...and not just with money. Sure, loading up a few tackle boxes can approach the national debt, but as has also been pointed out, simply having all the latest lures is no guarantee of success. That's why the big names on the bass circuit are not always the winners.[/size][/blue]
[#0000ff][size 1]I once heard a statement I agree with. That is that it is better to fish the wrong lure the right way than to fish the right lure the wrong way. Most of us who have learned through trial and error can only watch and feel sorry for some of the dudes we see out on the water, whipping it to a froth...fishing in the wrong places with the wrong lures and fishing them too fast or too slow for prevailing conditions.[/size][/#0000ff]
[#0000ff][size 1]Bass fishing...or any fishing...has become very scientific. However, the ART of angling is the final catalyst that brings together all of the modern refinements in tackle and other gear. And, it is the proper application of the ART of fishing...bringing everything together in just the right way, to get the vote of the fishies...that really puts a capper on a good day.[/size][/#0000ff]
[#0000ff][size 1]So, as has been advised, start by collecting proven lures, in the right sizes and colors. Get the best tackle you can afford and learn to use it. You often need to make precision casts to small spots, and you need to develop the touch and finesse to pick up on those "know nothing" bites that a lot of bass are infamous for. If you wait for the fish to crash your lures on every cast, you will miss a lot of strikes and go home saying "Lousy Day"...or "No fish in that lake."[/size][/#0000ff]
[#0000ff][size 1]On those rare days when bass are aggressive and chasing spinner baits, crankbaits or topwater, you will go home giggling. Nothing better than topwater blowups or visible takes just beneath the surface. But, the facts are that most bass are taken deeper and with finesse techniques. You ain't a real bassaholic until you learn to set the hook whenever there is a change in the "Force".[/size][/#0000ff]
[#0000ff][size 1]The real bad news is that just when you begin to think that you got those bad boys figured out, you get humbled again...and again...and again.[/size][/#0000ff]
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Too true huntN, haulin water doesn't put fish in the boat. I never go out and have a poor day without knowing that somewhere else on the lake someone who is more in tune with what's going on is killing them! No matter what the water conditions, weather, time of year, whatever, someone will be on fish and finding a way to get them into the boat. The more we practice and work at it, the luckier we get! Guess that's why it's called fishing instead of catching.
TubeDude, you called it too. There is always a refinement that can be made, a slightly better location (usually deeper) that can and will give up fish to the right technique. It never gets old fooling the wily bass, knowing he's there even if you don't feel him. That's why I choose to fish for bass, walleye, etc. Just wish I could remember how I caught that last one..............Nails
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Blades ... aka spinnerbaits
Chartruese & White skirt with stained blades like brass or copper work best in stained or muddy water.
The same spinnerbait with silver blades work the best in clear water.
the "Colorado" blade is round ... The "willowblade" is long and pointed at the tips.
Colorado blades give off more vibration ... ie, muddy water.
I use a smaller "blade" for smallies. Smallies key in on smaller baits hence the 4" senko instead of the 7".
I have caught some nige smallies on the gorge using full size blades. 80% of my blade smallies have come on smaller "modified" blades.
Skirt colors: Chartruese, white. pearl, black & clear all work well.
Good Luck Bro!
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[size 1]Thanks all for your comments. [/size]
[size 1]Hey, Nails, you said "The real fishing starts in a couple more weeks.....after the spawn is gone!" Does that mean that the fishing is going to get more or less difficult at Jordanelle and Deer Creek?[/size]
[size 1]And then Tomegun, you said, "[/size][#804000][size 2]Amen brother. The real fishing starts soon. Its very easy to psyche yourself too. Plus, it can very hard on the body[#804000][size 1]."[/size][/#804000][/size][/#804000]
[#804000][size 1]Not quite sure what you guys are meaning by the "real fishing" not starting until after the spawn is over?[/size][/#804000]
[#804000][size 1]Please advise.[/size][/#804000]
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I caught a bass once. By accident of course. [  ]
And tomegun, whats this about cabelas? cumon dude. You know where the good stuff is at. I just tossed all my cabelas and bass pro catalogs. No need to shop there anymore. [shocked]
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Fishing for the small bass will still be pretty good, but to get the big girls, it will be harder and deeper. Jordanelle is productive all year long, but the patterns and locations change. More hunting, and very rewarding when you get on fish too! Summer brings the top water bite too, and that is just a blast! The biggest reason it gets harder to get the bigger fish is that they are spread out more, and there is more forage for them to eat. All the spring minnows and craws are on the menu, so the presentation of the bait must be more precice. Hope this answers your question. Nails
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Yo brother ... give me a call asap! we need to hook up!
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I caught a bass once. By accident of course. [  ]
And tomegun, whats this about cabelas? cumon dude. You know where the good stuff is at. I just tossed all my cabelas and bass pro catalogs. No need to shop there anymore. [shocked] [/reply]
[font "Garamond"][size 3] Actually I agree with Tomegun. I get orders much quicker from Cabela's than I do from Bass Pro Shops. [/size][/font]
[font "Garamond"][size 3] And just where is the "good stuff?" I hope you aren't talking about any retailers around here. A place like Sportsmans is good, especially if you need it NOW, but if you can wait and need a wider selection and value, I'll go to Cabelas or Bass Pro. [/size][/font]
[font "Garamond"][size 3]Look out if that Cabela's in Lehi ever gets built. If I'm ever missing, my wife just might know where to find me.[/size][/font]
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I live in Lehi, and I don't believe that I could afford to have a Cabela's that close. They are bad enough as it is. Nails
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