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I was flipping through my Idaho shots and forgot all about this ... I was casting a crankbait and got caught on a branch behind me. Whizzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. went my spool. I was laughing the whole time I was taking my line off. Snip Snip Snip ... Re-Spool.
Baitcast Reels are actually very cool. It's just the basics you need to master.
Tips:
When starting for the first time ... use heavier line.
1. tighten the break and magnets all the way to get a feel for your reel.
2. Slowly loosen the break in between casts to improve your distance.
3. Practice ... Practice ... Practice
It takes practice but you eventually will bet longer casts then a spinning rod and more accurate, less splash presentations.
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I've seem some of those before, just hate when that happens.
later chuck
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Wow!! That is one [red]ugly [/red][#000000]backlash! (Or "bird's nest" as we used to call them where I grew up!) [/#000000]
No wonder you took a picture of it!
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I LOVE levelwind baitcast reels - I have 5 of them. I've even become fairly adept at throwing 4-6 oz. jigs on 3/0 saltwater reels for dorado and yellowtail (lean and heave - both thumbs on the spool).
Now for the scary part, I've got this plan to teach Mrs. W2D to throw a baitcaster. Hey, it could happen!!! We're going to start in the yard with a spray bottle of water to wet the spool (if you're a beginner, do this - dry line is harder to cast).
Results to follow in spreadsheet format.
Subsequent projects involve teaching her to back a boat down the ramp - straight, then "walk the dog" with a Zara Spook, then tie a palomar knot, then fillet a wiper... She can already swear-like-a-sailor at a snarled trolling spread, so that's one less thing to worry about.
In the words of Dr. Frankenstein, "It's alive, IT'S ALIVE!!!".
W2D
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I thought I had some backlashes before, but I can see from your picture that I really haven't had any before.
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I see you have been taking lessons from mu wife ]
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It's just a flesh wound!
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Quick question regarding the brake... Is there any particular order to turn them off... every other one... next to each other... opposite??? I hope I'm making sense with the question[crazy] I'm really starting to dig my baitcast reel... I've been using it almost exclusively for the last little bit. Great to have the light touch and accuracy when necessary. Works pretty well for kitty fishing off the bottom too. Any info woudl be helpful.
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Wow, that's trophy/keeper sized ! That looks like you might have had your reel on free spool and it was loaded with something like 8/10 pound when that happened.
Just for clarification - what do you mean by "heavier line" to start out with (are you talking 14 + pound or, even heavier) ? And, does that(using heavier line) also include improving learning the "flipping" technique ? Unless my reel is on free spool, my flips don't go anywhere.
Any hints on technique improving would definitly be appreciated.
For me, my worse ones happen(I have 10 lb line on my baitcaster now, when I got it and started trying to learn how to cast it, I had 6 pound) when I don't notice my line has wrapped around the end of my rod once or twice before casting - usually it happens when the fishing is hottest or within the first few casts of using that reel before the line is wet and more flexible.
Side note: I can cast side arm a country mile with little problem(the longer the cast, the fewer problems I have, and, I can hit a bucket from 60 feet on a regular basis), but my overhead casts and shorter casts seem to create birdnests way too often - Also, if I have more than one object on the end of my line(like when I cast a lead weight with a heavy bait below) it happens more often - I seldom have the problem if I only have a plug,crankbait or spinner/buzz bait on the line.
One more thing - whenever I try to cast(even a low profile side arm cast) a light lure into a strong wind with my baitcaster - the results almost always include a birdsnest. My ego wants to tell me "maybe it's the light line" - LOL. Small wonder why my dad wouldn't let me touch his baitcasters - he said it was a felony and punishible by death or worse - and, I believed him at the time because of the way he said it.
Practice, practice, practice - my neigbors already think I'm nuts for fishing in my back yard - but it's probably not the only reason they think that though.
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[#505000]Do they think you are nuts for fishing in the backyard Chuck, or do they think you are nuts for fishing in the backyard in a dive mask, flippers, and snorkle, while only wearing your jockey shorts and a neck tie? [cool][/#505000]
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12lb line is a good all around line to throw on a baitcaster. Keep in mind I am talking about regular mono. Flouro, braid, or some of the other specialty lines may have a smaller diameter making it seem like 8lb test rather than 12lb. Anything bigger that 16lb may cause the line to spool off too fast causing a professional over run as well.
The best thing too do regardless of what line..... Make your longest cast, strip off 20 extra feet of line, place a piece of tape over the spool, trim it so it doesn't interfere with the the reel, and wind it back on. This way when you do have a backlash you are only picking out 70 feet instead of 70 yards of line.
Keep this in mind, you get what you pay for. A $40 reel will cast like a $40 reel. Trust me I have a box full of cheap baitcast reels.
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Hmmm ... You might be on to something there, Gary. However, it seems to have started with me mounting my fly reel on a ski pole in the middle of winter - I told them it was for ice fishing - they looked somewhat incredulous at my story - not sure why.
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I can't remember how much it cost, but is a Quantum accurist AC401c(LH) a cheapo ? - it seemed like it cost a bit more than $40 - but, it could still be a piece of junk as far as I would know.
Anyway, I like the idea of only casting a small amount of line at first - those hundred yard nests are a bit tedious to untangle and a bit expensive to just cut off and throw away. could you maybe describe how you do that in some more detail(i.e. do you tie off the 70 feet with another arbor knot (in your example) on top of the rest of the line that is taped down ? Or did I miss your meaning completely ?) - so I don't have to experiment so much I've already spent a lot of time on it and if I could streamline the learning curve a little more it would be very beneficial and appreciated a lot.
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That looks like a normal cast for you Clif.
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In some circles a backlash is called a "professional override". [cool]
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I've had pretty good success with some of the cheaper baitcasting reels if I used much heavier braided line--40 lb test spiderwire is pretty good and actually still has abou the same diameter as 10 lb mono. I used to use mono leader to avoid spooking fish, but I seemed to have just as much success without it, so now I usually don't bother unless the water is very clear.
In the old days, baitcasting reels were generally spooled with braided dacron lines that were fairly thick. I think it is easier to untangle a backlash with the braided lines.
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Ick! That one is worse than the ones I got while using your rig up at Deer Creek.
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Remember to adjust your small break accordingly. Remember that there are also magnets controlled by a dial utilize them as well. For smaller size baits ... loosen your break but tighten your magnets.
Heavy line means something over 17lb. In that pic, I have 10lb XT.
I don't use tape on my reel. I rely on my baitcast skills and my moon boots.
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Did you find an egg in that birds nest?? ha ha.
I hate when that happens.[pirate]
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This is what works for me: I fill half my spool with some old line [saves money], then tie a knot with the new line, fill the spool, tie on a lure and make a cast, strip an extra 20 feet off the spool, take a small piece of duct tape and place it across the spool, trim the tape so it doesnt interfere with the spool, reel your line over the top of the tape. Now you will only have 70 feet of line to pick out instead of the entire spool.
The Quantum Accurist is an ok reel. Most guys use the Shimano Curado's, but, in my personal opinion the Rick Clunn reels [Bass Pro Shops] are every bit as good as a Curado and about $40-$50 bucks cheaper. Every reel is different. Most guys will use one model of reel on all their rods.
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