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11-12-2005, 01:16 AM
Hi all. Just wanted to let you all know I'm back. I promise to be on my best behavior and let by gones be by gones. Thanks to the mods for all their hard work to sort this out. Went to Yuba today. Only got a couple, but they were fat and sassy.
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11-12-2005, 01:18 AM
There goes the neighborhood! Just kidding -- welcome back and congratulations on catching a couple at Yuba.
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11-12-2005, 01:50 AM
Hey LS it is nice to have you around. I think you, PBH, and WnB have some insigthful info that will benefit a lot of people. Hope to meet you out on the water.
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11-12-2005, 02:13 AM
Thanks for the post LS and welcome to the site. I'm glad to see you don't have a problem posting a fishing report on the general board now. If you don't mind me asking, what method did you use to catch those Yuba hogs? WH2
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11-12-2005, 04:31 AM
Thanks guys.
Over all it was a slow day at Yuba. The two I caught were on various crystal buggers. One red and one black. Stripped and trolled, type III/IV line. I should have used my Int. I only saw two other fish caught. L [signature]
11-12-2005, 04:48 AM
Hey 2 fish at this time of year at yuba is not a bad! ] Just wait till just before it ices up and then you will see some good fishing there.[signature]
11-12-2005, 05:34 AM
Good to have you here, and thanks for the report. Those Yuba bows look like a lot of fun.
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11-12-2005, 02:51 PM
LS,
Welcome back and thanks for the report. I love to fish crystal buggers as well but have a question about sinking lines. You made the comment that you should have used Int line rather than III/IV. I understand that one goes deeper than the other but I always have a hard time deciding when to use which line. What is your thought process you go through to decide which line to use? Why do you think you should have changed to the Int? Do you fish with a fish finder and saw the fish at certain depths? Just curious how you decide which to use or what makes you decide to change while fishing? Thanks! [signature]
11-12-2005, 03:59 PM
BC,
The real reason I didn't switch was my int line was a 5wt and I was fishing my 6wt rod. I was mostly trolling so it would have been OK. When fishing sinking lines, the thing to remember/think about is not only how deep the fish are holding but presenting the fly to the fish. With the faster skinking lines the time "in the zone" will be shorter. With an intermediate line the time in the zone will be longer, but it will take the line longer to get to the fish. When we first got there I was marking fish at 13-20'. After moving around for a while I found fish holding at 4-7'. That would have been much better presented with an int line. It was late in the day at that point so I was just to lazy to switch... L [signature]
11-12-2005, 04:12 PM
thanks, that makes good sense. Your reply brings up another question. How much difference is there between a 5 wt line and a 6 wt line when fishing a 6 wt rod? I only have a 5 wt rod and one day at sportsmans wharehouse I went in to buy a 5 wt type III sink line and they only had a 6 wt type III sink and the saleman said it would work just fine and I wouldn't notice the difference. I didn't buy his advice or the line and found what I needed elsewhere. But I've often wondered if it really would have worked well and if I could tell the difference....
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11-12-2005, 04:30 PM
BC,
It's easier to go up in weight than down. In fact some folks that make only very short casts will intentionally "overline" a rod. It can be done in a pinch, but I wouldn't no it on purpose. I had that line with me from the last time I went out. L [signature]
11-12-2005, 04:36 PM
Not necessarily LS. fast/faster sinking lines,( density compensated lines), are made to fish deeper depths for a longer time at the same depth. What I mean is if you have a type III line -3½"- 4" IPS, the lake bottom is around 14' deep or the fish are at that depth , it should take you about 40 or so seconds to hit bottom or the fish. Stripping it in should keep you at that depth until the angle and line is short enough to start bringing it up to your tube/kickboat. Speed of your strip will also come into play, as does the length of your cast. A 70' cast will stay in the strike zone longer than a 30' cast. At the 4' -7' depths you were fishing you were right that an intermediate line would have been a good choice, also type II would have worked. One more thing- leader length is also a factor. Short lengths- 6' will keep it pretty much at the same level as the line. Go longer you'll be a little more above the line. Good for fishing above weed beds. Dude, you got to stop being so lazy. Get another rod, reel and use your intermediate on one and type whatever on the other. I got a buddy that'll help you set it up.
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11-12-2005, 04:43 PM
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thanks, that makes good sense. Your reply brings up another question. How much difference is there between a 5 wt line and a 6 wt line when fishing a 6 wt rod? I only have a 5 wt rod and one day at sportsmans wharehouse I went in to buy a 5 wt type III sink line and they only had a 6 wt type III sink and the saleman said it would work just fine and I wouldn't notice the difference. I didn't buy his advice or the line and found what I needed elsewhere. But I've often wondered if it really would have worked well and if I could tell the difference.... BC, I use one weight up on all my sinking lines except for intermediate clear camo. That stays the same as the rod weight. Sinking lines are thinner than floating lines, so you can get away with overlining if you want to call it that. Ash [/reply] [signature]
11-12-2005, 04:47 PM
Ok Smarty pants. Seriously I was fishing with Slayer and was trying to minimize gear.
EA knows his stillwater stuff. He was I was trying to, but couldn't. L [signature]
11-12-2005, 04:51 PM
I must be dumber than a bag of hammers. I try to use the quote button, it comes up, I type in my response, hit post reply and everything I had typed up is not there. Then I try it differently- type in my response in the same body as the original poster-with a break in it and it looks like the original posters comments only longer. Big Cat- read the reply from me starting half way down. After what you wrote.
Help- what am I doing wrong? Ash [signature]
11-12-2005, 04:51 PM
Thanks E.A. and LS. I love to flyfish but am still learning a lot about it. Thanks for helping.
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11-12-2005, 10:19 PM
I don't know you, so not sure whether you are dumber than hammers or not; however, I do have some experience with trying to us Quote. It works on some computers and not on others. Unfortunately, it doesn't work on either my home or work computer.
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11-12-2005, 10:32 PM
There are a few of the guys that have it figured out but I just copy and paste, it's just as easy. I think Kentofnsl has the quote button figured out maybe he will see this post and offer to help. WH2
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11-13-2005, 01:11 AM
Wow Curt, I made the post just before yours on the Quote button.
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11-13-2005, 02:15 AM
That just shows how slow I am at making a post, it took me 13 minutes or more from the time I pushed reply to post that little message. I knew you had used the quote button before but I thought it was working for you.
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