fly fishing for carp and catfish

[krayziegee]

anybody ever tried it..if so what kinda flies? thats something i have always wanna try
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[JoyRide]

I sure coulda' used a couple flies this afternoon when I stopped by Oneida. Carp catching air all around the boat.
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[Fishcrazy]

Never tried it,but used to see Carp in the shallows in Sept.,on the Jordon. Have a #10 fly rod and always wanted to try it.I think their are some flies for it.
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[Caddfly]

Pheasant tails, hare's ear, aquatic worms, some berries/seeds when available. Carp will feed on what is available. Carp rock...have fun.
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[Everet14]

Carp are an absolute blast to catch ona fly rod! I would use prince nymphs some midge patterns and several differnt types of streamers/crystal buggers in drab colors. My all time favorite carp fly is purple crystal bugger tyed with large webby hackle and a black marabou tail. Carp fly fishing can be tough, but when you latch into one, there is not much that fighs harder and longer.
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[Kraizee_Skot]

[font "Impact"][#ff4040][size 3]Hey just throw a treble hook on your fly line and add some doughball and have fun. Why make it harder than it should be.[sly][/size][/#ff4040][/font]
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[Anthonygreer]

I have caught them on a variety of flies. Buggers work well, and small nymphs do too. I also like taking them on top when I can. I used to catch them on popcorn at murray park. If they are still there, you could tie up some sort of "popcorn" fly, or throw out something that looks like popcorn. Good luck.
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[Kraizee_Skot]

[font "Impact"][#ff4040][size 3]To "tie" a "popcorn" fly just take a half a small cotton ball and put it on a hook.[][/size][/#ff4040][/font]
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[TubeDude]

[cool][#0000ff]Hey Gee, I posted this [url "http://www.laughingbass.com/speer.asp"]LINK TO CARP FLYFISHING VIDEO[/url] before. Some good info about flyfishing for carp where they are visible.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]I have taken quite a few carp in several waters while flinging small chartreuse, white or black flies for crappies or bluegills. In most Utah waters, carp are omnivorous and eat almost anything other fish eat. They eat a lot of aquatic insects and minnows. So, they will hit a wide variety of patterns.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Wherever you find carp sucking stuff off the surface, they will take floating flies. I used to tie a good "marshmallow hackle" by spinning white deerhair or palmer tying a lot of white hackle and then trimming it down. It was great for park ponds, but was originally designed for catching trout at Deer Creek, when the trout came up for the evening marshmallow hatch (lots of folks chummed with those little white mallows). I once hooked a huge buglemouth up there while fishing for trout with those white flies, and have used them successfully several times since. [/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Actually, a high floating Renegade...with the white front hackle...also works as a carp catcher on the surface...or even when worked as a subsurface presentation.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]One of the keys to catching carp on a fly, if you are not fishing them on the surface, is detecting the take and setting the hook fast. In that video, they tell you to let the fish take the fly and run to set the hook by itself. I have watched carp take a fly by sucking it in and then quickly spitting it out without ever feeling a thing on the line or rod. [/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Most of the carp I have taken on flys have been while using my "bluegill retrieve". Gills are also notorious for just slipping up behind a fly, sucking it in and then spitting it back out. So, when I fish them, I keep the rod tip pointed directly at the fly and strip in short twitches, holding the line at all times, maintaining complete feel of what is going on at the other end of the line. Whenever there is the slightest change in "the force" I pull the line straight back a few inches, without using the rod. If there is resistance, then I pull harder while raising the rod. If there is a carp on the other end, you don't have to worry about finesse for awhile. Just hang on and make sure your drag works.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]I have fly fished for cats all over the country. There are some streams in Texas, and other parts of the south that fly fishing for channel cats is much like trout fishing in the mountain states. Cast, drift, mend, pick up and do it again. Of course you use sunken patterns, like big buggers and streamers. [/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]In the sixties, when I first fished the lower Provo and Utah Lake, channel cats ran up the lower Provo in May, both to spawn and to feed up on large pteronarchys (stone fly) nymphs. As far as I know, they are no longer found in the Provo (pollution and water fluctuations). But, in those days, you could catch bunches of two to three pound channels by bouncing a big nymph down into the holes below a riffle.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]I have taken many channels, up to about 10 pounds, out of both Utah Lake and Willard on flies. They will hit the same patterns you use for white bass or walleyes...or crappies in Willard. However, I have done best on two colors...white (with some silver in it) and black...with a red head. The white seems to imitate a lot of the fry upon which channel cats feed. The black is usually best about the time baby mud cats (or channels) are hatching out and forming schools around the edges of the lakes. A lot of fish feed on those little kitties, including big walleyes.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]I have had days tubing along the dikes on Willard, using a 9' 6 weight fly rod, with sink tip line, where I caught upwards of fifty channel cats on either a size 4 black bugger, or a size 4 or 6 Silver Hilton (steelhead fly). During those days I also caught lots of crappies and even a stray walleye or two. The best bite for all of them on flies is usually during May and June, although you can catch a few almost all year from March through October.[/#0000ff]
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