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I am going Ice fishing with a friend and we'll be taking a tent just in case it is cold, snowy, and/or windy(like today).
What recommendations would anyone have as far as a small portable heater that is useable inside a tent ?
Anyone use those Coleman catalytic types before ?
How about the Mr. Heater - the one that can be used inside a tent ?
Any other kinds ?
Any information would be appreciated. Thanx !
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I've used several kinds of heaters, and all seem to work well. I have a Mr. Heater buddy, and the only complaint I have is that a small breeze will blow the thing out. If you have some ventilation, I doubt you'd have any problem with CO. If you are really worried, you can pick up a battery operated CO detector at the local hardware store for around 20 bucks.
Have fun, and let us know how you do.
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I 2nd the Mr. Heater Buddy and the small breeze thing. It also has a feature that shuts itself off when CO gets high. Problem is it's usually on the floor of the tent and you aren't. Probably pass out before it goes off! [pirate] They aren't bad though. We fish at night and run them and a lantern and it's usually fine. Just open the tent for fresh air every now and then. They don't hold much air, so it doesn't take much time to air them out. If you get a headache or get the signs, get out of the tent and get some air.
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I like the coleman catalytic heaters - no risk of CO. But since then I have decided to buy warmer clothes and skip the heater and tent - this increases mobility.
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That truly is the key- clothing. I've decided the 2 greatest things for ice fishing, besides maybe my pole - LOL - is Goretex and Wool. Is there anything really better? Wool is flat amazing stuff and good ol' mother nature got it right there. All the engineering in the world still can't match it. Goretex can't be beat either for staying dry. Combine the two and you are ready for about anything out there.
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[  ]a friend of mine bought a mister heater buddy propane heater and it will shut off if the oxygen level gets low. it won't let it get very low before shuting off. it's a good thing as it makes you keep a door open a little bit so you are always getting fresh air into the tent.
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What,f4f, no Carhartts or Walls? Don't you want to look like Ralphie's little brother in "The Christmas Story"?
I like to do the layer approach, too, especially if in a heated shelter. And the gloves get in the way of my using the DVD player, the pate', and the expresso machine my friend brings along (we use demitasse cups).[blush]
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3][font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]I've had both the Coleman and Mr Heater buddy heaters. I prefer the Mr Heater but it can go through one of those pre-filled bottles in no time. I'm going to upgrade mine by buying the hose adapter to allow it to run off a refillable larger tank so it should pay for itself in what I'd pay for disposable pre-filled bottles. As has been said, it doesn't work well outdoors but in a shelter, it's great.[/size][/black][/font]
Clothing IS the key but IMHO, quality polarfleece is better than wools. Polarfleece will also keep you fairly warm when wet but the big advantage is that they dry very quickly. Say you get wet, you can wringe it out put it back on and be dry again in no time whereas wools get very heavy and take forever to dry and if it's really cold, will freeze. Wools do work but I like the polarfleeces even better plus its machine washable and doesn't shrink.
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]Goretex is good stuff too. I broke down this year and bought the Cabela's guidewear insulated goretex insulated parka and bibs. Thanks to the Cabela's bargain basement, I got the bibs for about $50 under retail and the parka was online in the bargain basement at about $60 under retail because they were changing the styling. Granted, even at $110 stavings, the stuff was still way pricey but it's nice to be able to stay completely dry even when kneeling on the ice or in wet snow.[/size][/black][/font]
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BLM- I'll give you Polar Fleece. It's good stuff too and best of all, it's cheap. Heck, isn't it just recycled plastics or something? I still think sitting in your shelter to stay warm or on a bucket outside the shelter, I'll take wools. Both have what you want, the breathe and defend against the wet, but yes wool is heavier, but warmer. I usually don't move around alot, so those that do might not enjoy wool. Also, I wear wool as my middle layer, not on the outside. The goretex layer is on the outside. I guess I lean on wool for the warmth not the water defender, I'll leave that to the Goretex. [unsure]
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]Hey, fishin4fun,[/size][/black][/font]
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]Didn't mean to imply that polar fleeces or wools should be used as your "water defender" layer. Unfortunately, moisture and water has a way of finding it's way through the best clothing systems when you're out in the cold and snow and water. [/size][/black][/font]
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]As you and others have stated, a well thought out layering of the proper type of under and outer garments is your best defense against wet and cold. There's no one right way to do it but there are lots of options to consider and exploring these options helps everyone to examine the advatanges and di  vantages of each.[/size][/black][/font]
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BLM- It's all good. I wasn't trying to get defensive either- you hit it on the head, layers. Give yourself options and flexibility. Plus, in a drastic situation, the ability to shed something or put something back on might save your life. Never trust one layer to do it all.
Man, all these discussions of ice this and that is killing me. I need to hit some hard water soon!
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Actually CO is the same density as air, so it goes where the air goes, so it doesn't matter where you put the heater or a CO detector. That is why it doesn't matter where you put a CO detector in your house, near the floor, or near the ceiling, both will give you the same amount of protection/warning.
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I use an alcohol burner in the shanty, it's cheaper and lasts longer than propane sweet propane I don't know if it produces carbon monoxide I'm not dead yet I don't think, also, nobody mentioned neck gators if I can keep the cold out of my neck it really helps.
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Hey Guys,
Thanx for the great info !
OK, I have all the clothes stuff covered already - no problem keeping warm and dry(I ski - alot). Mostly, I have a friend(avid angler) from down in the deep south (only seen snow once) who is bound and determined to do some Ice fishing while out here. I more or less got enough clothes to make do for both of us, but, I want to insure that the environmental temperature is not a complete culture shock and distracts from the experience. So, to refine my questions( I did some internet research) and get further enlightenment. Here's a couple more, for anyone that may know:
Do the Coleman catalytic heaters put out enough heat to really notice it within a confined space - like an ice tent ? Does it put out more heat than a latern ?
The Mr. Heater buddy website mentions a degradation of performance (the unit may shut off completely) when used above 7000 feet elevation - anyone notice this as a problem ? Most of the lakes I would fish are above that. It may have something to do with the low Oxygen sensor - I think.
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BLM - I already have one of those conversion adapters for a stove that is the same as the one you mentioned for the Mr. Heater. I also have a propane tank that will work. However that would make it kind of heavy. About how long did those small disposable containers last - on the high or low setting ?
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]My experience is that two bottles should cover a full day out on the ice if you run it all day. I can't remember what setting I used probably high. The weight thing is not a concern for me because if I can't take the snowmobile and sled/shelter, I'm not going. [/size][/black][/font]
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I use mine (Mr. Heater) at Strawberry all the time and it's 8000 ft. Elevation might hurt its performance, but I've never noticed it. It the little breezes that put it out more than anything. Usually starts on the 2nd-3rd attempt every time.
As far as those little bottles, just depends on how much you use it and what setting. On high, you will blast right through them. I usually have mine on low/medium and I will burn one a day (assuming I spend most of the day out there). The web might have some general burn rates to calculate off of? I usually take 3 bottles per trip. 1 for the lantern, 1 for the heater and 1 extra. If I get an unused one, it becomes my backup for the next trip. Beauty of those little ones, is the frost that builds up on them is the fill line!! [cool]
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]Dude, I'm sure we'd get along great! When the ice hits hard let's find out![/size][/black][/font]
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Sounds like a plan- Your up "north" with me already (No. Ogden and I fell north compared to most BFT'ers).
We really need to hit Middle Piney lake like we talked about last year. Maybe ice off next year? Mark your calendar for around June 1st. The big macs cruise the upper parts of the lake. We use bullheads and usually have a blast. I can only imagine taking a true Mac chaser up there!
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Blm is right. On all the above. His little Mr Heater is good for inside fishing.
Myself, I like it outside. And, I only have 2 feet drive(unless Rich is around. Did I mention that I love him[blush]). Boots are very important. The new tents now a days are usually some type of clamshell. So, you have a ice floor instead of plastic.
Research on footwear is very important(and everyone has an opinion). Blm and I both own the Cabelas "Trans-Alaska III Pac Boot". Last year, I stepped in a 10" hole up to my hip. My foot never got wet. Another time, Blm and I fished Strawberry in -16 degrees. My feet were fine. His snowmobile froze solid and still had one of my best trips.
Or, you can get one of these(see attached picture). The "Artifical Sun" 46,000 btu's. Its a Coleman super heater. It has saved many a cold people on the ice.
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