blue cats in utah lake is this true

[catman79]

Is it true there are blue cats in utah lake
has anybody heard anything recentlly on gill netting
at utah lake or willard how oftan do the gill net and where can i find the results
Thank u everyone for your help
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[orvy]

I dont know about Utah lake but about 20 years ago my Grandpa caught one in Decker lake that was around 15lbs, kinda cool, had the news over at his house, but any way if they're in there it a get bet they're in the big mud hole.
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[Kent]

There are threads on BFT on this very subject. Suggest you do a search.
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[catman79]

Thanks guys where is decker at
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[TubeDude]

[cool][#0000ff]There are NO blue cats in Utah. None in Utah Lake, none in Decker, none in Willard and none in Bear River.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]There are big male channel cats that turn a bluish tinge, but they are the same species as the tan colored females...just a different gender.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Also, forget that you heard from your cousin who had a friend who's uncle knew somebody who once heard that the seiners in Utah Lake have been getting hundred pound catfish. Never happened. Also, no flatheads, no piranhas and no alligators.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]They only do occasional gill netting surveys in Utah Lake, mainly to keep tabs on the population of carp and predators...so they know how many june suckers to plant for their food.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]To the best of my knowledge, DWR is not really concerned about maintaining any kind of controlled population of the game species in Utah Lake. There was a small sampling done last year, after which they determined that 90 percent of the biomass in Utah Lake was carpkind.[/#0000ff]
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[Theekillerbee]

Silly Pat, there are blue cats in UL...you just have to put them in some metheline blue dye for while, then the whole stinkin' fish will turn a very dark blue...meat included![] The nice thing about the dye, is that is is safe for humans!
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[fsh4fun05]

I stopped at American Fork B.H. last weekend and some drunk redneck was bragging about catching 13 flatheads. What was he reffering to, Mudcats?
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[TubeDude]

[cool][#0000ff]Probably his kids.[/#0000ff]
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[fsh4fun05]

Thats funny, reminds me of a joke but not for this site...
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[hookemup]

TD
I pretty much take y`alls post as gospull.....BUTT I`ve seen the bluest/purple flat-headed muthu out of UTL ferst hand.. it dang sher werent no channel (#5) cat. I thawt it musta bin a blu fer sher.
And that`s no BULL!
Could somebody have transplanted a blue (or fifty, or a thousand) ?? The one I saw was ...mmmm 15 ears ago?? I`ll try to dig up a picture.
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[TubeDude]

[cool][#0000ff]I repeat...THERE AIN'T NO BLUE CATS IN UTAH. They are not in the DWR list of species, even though there are fish listed that we never see or catch.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Utah goobers continue to argue that they have caught, or know someone who has caught blue cats. I keep hearing that stuff, over and over, since the early sixties. There is no way bucket biologists can transport enough blue cats to establish any kind of population. [/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]I have caught blue cats in the east, and flatheads in several states. I know what they look like and I can tell instantly, by counting the rays on the anal fin, the difference between channels and blues. There ain't no blues in Utah.[/#0000ff]
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Blue cat.

[#0000ff]Here are a couple of pics of male channel cats that show the difference in shape and color. [/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Plus a picture of one caught by Out4Trout that has gotta rank as the all-time ugliest looking male catfish I have ever seen.[/#0000ff]
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[Kraizee_Skot]

[font "Arial"][#ff4040]You can tell by just looking at the pooper eh? (fin that is)[][/#ff4040][/font]
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[TubeDude]

[cool][#0000ff]Butt...of course. Actually, anybody who has ever caught real blue cats would not likely mistake a male channel cat for a blue. The bigger a blue cat gets, the heavier its body gets in proportion to its head...just the opposite of a big male channel cat.[/#0000ff]

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[#0000ff]Blue cats get to be over a hundred pounds. A measly ten pounder, like some people think are blues in Utah, would be long and skinny...just a baby.[/#0000ff][url "http://www.rodnreel.com/news/images/catfish2l.jpg"][/url]
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[Kraizee_Skot]

[font "Arial"][#ff4040][size 3]I think that one caught by O4T is not only ranked all time ugliest ever seen by you, but also ranked ugliest catfish ever![shocked][/size][/#ff4040][/font]
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[Out4Trout]

[cool]CBR and I met that moron last week. He also thought that white bass were stripers. Very intelligent man. We just laughed on walked on down to the end of the dike.
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[catman79]

So Thats how you tell the diffrence between the two
Thanks Tubedude sorry to bring this up again i
found this same subject on a old thread but thats
some good info learn somethin new everyday
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[CROSSINEYES]

about 13 yrs ago i caught a 35 inch cat in lindon marina. i thought it was a flat head? when i meshured it it was 9 and a half inches betwenn his eye balls. and head was shaped differnt than any cat id ever caught before. so what was the dang thing?
o and a buch of yrs back the dwr traded with kentuckey for some blue chanels. maybee you could dig up some info on where the dwr put them. i saw it on the news a bunch of yrs back. may bee they all died on way here?
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[TubeDude]

[cool][#0000ff]I am betting that your big catfish was a daddy channel cat. They do get wierd shaped heads. The distance between the eyes is not what makes a "flathead". Flatheads have a lower jaw that sticks out in front. You can grab on to it to hold them. But, they got sharp teeth.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Here's a couple of pics of flatheads, and I am attaching a couple of the male and female channel cats we got today, down at Lindon. You notice that the male's head is more like a big bulb.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]And..."blue channels"? There is no such species. There are blue cats and channel cats. But, it is a term heard often in Utah. There are some "know-it-all goobers" that are ready to fight when you suggest that there is no such thing as a blue channel, or that there are NO blue cats in Utah.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]That being said, some channel cats (besides the males) can develop a bluish tinge, rather than the more common tan color. A good example are the ones in Salem Pond. Even the females are a bluish color. Some folks speculate that it is because of the water chemistry in the hatchery they come from. But...they are still channel cats.[/#0000ff]
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[CROSSINEYES]

it looked moore like the one thats in the reply/ about the same size to. ????? hmmmm. ill have to dig up the pick in photos. man this wont be easy. maybe 10 or moore fishing albums.
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[smallmouthchaser]

I just think it's so dang funny people on this board keep insisting that there are blue cats in Utah Lake. There never have been, there never will be, and it's obvious they don't know their species fi they think so.
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