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My wife and I went fishing today and had a great time. First time ice fishing in a long time, pretty much nonstop action on just four poles. The problem I had is that at least four or five of the fish that we caught had been caught before, not a problem since we kept them. If we wouldn't have they would probably have died from injuries received from their last battle. I wonder how many fish are laying on the bottom dead, if we caught that many injured ones.
If you are fishing just to catch the trophy, have enough smarts to use barbless hooks or be willing to keep the ones that have been hooked deep or close to the gills no matter what the size. Some of the fish we caught had ripped gills and gill covers, just so someone could be entertained and say we caught a lot of fish.
Lets not waste our resources. Most of us know where the big fish are and when to target them.
I know that this post will make a lot of people mad, but what I saw pissed me off!!!!!!!!!!!
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I asked that same question a while back and got nothing but flack!
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I agree if you are going to catch and release waiting for a big one then pinch your barb down.
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If they were still swimming , and eating what makes you think they were going to die ? Oh ya you made sure of that you kept them .
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I understand what you are saying, but it is not everyone who is releasing fish that are doing this. For 80% of the fish I release I reach down with my forcepts and pop the jig out without ever touching the fish. No tearing or ripped gill plates. The other 20% I take out for a quick picture.
I think it is more about educating people on how to carefully release fish without beating the crud out of them.
I do keep fish that are deep hooked or gill hooked. Those are the ones I keep for dinner. I guess this is another reason I jig fish in the winter rather than using treble hooks and bait. Most of my fish are caught right in the jaw just like a fly.
There will always be idiots who hold up their fish for pictures by the gill plate and then release the fish. Hopefully they are in the minority.
Anyway good reminder to be careful with our fish. Just don't throw all of the anglers on this board under the bus.
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i do agree that this is a good topic but would like to know in what ways the fish were injured. i do believe if they are feeding they are fairly healthy. i have watched alot of ppl in my favorite walleye hole that will take a fish and keep them out of the water for 10 minutes taking pictures, weighing them.... me i like to do it as quick and if possible not even touching the fish like listed above.
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You make some good points. Having a good set of needle nose or forceps can make a big difference. Also knowing how to back out the hook.
I wonder about the soft mouthed kokes. Seems very easy to do some major damage to those fish. We usual keep any kokanee that are bleeding even slightly and leave when we reach our limits. But you hear reports of people catching 50+ kokes in a day. I wonder how many turn into crawfish food.
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With Kokes on Ririe I am using very small hooks, maybe a size 10 or 12. The hook backs out even easier because of their light mouths. I do tend to keep more of those for dinner.
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You said key word here Windriver.....education.
Just because a fish swims away, doesn't mean it will live, BUT, this is a blood sport like it or not, right?
All we can do is learn the best ways. I personally like the Barbless hook idea.
I also agree that the miss handlers are probably way out numbered by the one that care.
My only concern is, if you keep it, eat it....you can buy cow manure for fertilizer...[  ]
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i understand what your saying..just one point..most of the fisherman on here know how to release a fish properly..and will keep ant they might have damaged..its the small pecentage of idiots you are proboly trying to educate and there not here to listen..what your going to end up doing is insult the ones that do know better..have fun
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Would you be mad if you didn't catch any fish because everyone kept all the fish they caught? If all the fish you caught had been caught previous and kept that would mean no action for you and you probably wouldn't be thinking our resource is really being taken care of.
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scorci thats another great point. i would curious to know the actualy mortality rate of trout realeased that actualy die. i to would like to see more edication on c&r tactics.
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I have no problem with people taking the fish they have caught home,as long as they are not wasted, but when we took eight fish home, three had gill injures and one had a gill plate missing, it makes me wonder how many more are laying on the bottom. If the person who caught them would have kept them and stopped fishing, there still, probably, would have been more fish left to be caught.
I do appreciate all the people on this site and know that most of us will keep, and not waste a fish if it has been hooked to deep.
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[font "Calibri"]This is an interesting topic.[/font]
[font "Calibri"]I have only recently began fishing as a hobby and really enjoy this activity. I have since I began wading more, I typically release the fish while still in the water and use barbless on my flies and lures.[/font]
[font "Calibri"]My question to you trophy anglers, if you are fishing a trophy fishery, single hook, barbless, no keepers under 20”. What do you do with a fish that has deeply swallowed a fly? I have cut my line and let it go, but what if you think the fish has been damaged from the fight and will not survive? I will not risk being caught with a fish under 20” because the regulations don’t allow me to keep the fish. The risk is that the fish might die or not but at least I don’t get a ticket.[/font]
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[font "Calibri"]I always release, unless my kids are worm fishing and want to bring a fish or two home to fry. The bait fishing always seems to be hooked deep. I do intend of keeping a trophy for mounting some day. must be 24" + to beat my current from Henry's[cool][/font]
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[font "Calibri"]It is a bloody sport for the fish no doubt about it. The peeps I don’t like are the ones who fish artificial areas with worms or people who keep more then the limit allows. I see worm containers thrown away occasaionally on the banks of springfield.[/font]
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were these old scars on these fish or were they fresh? I know that alot of the late planters are more beat up from the concrete runs at the hatcheries.
steve if i have a fish that has swallowed a hook i simple cut the line and let it go. i have let some go in area were you cant keep cutthroat that were in ruff shape but it still gives the fish a chance to survive. there are times that i am sure the fish dont survive but i guesse thats going to happen with a barbless, fly or whatever you use.
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I do agree, I would not be caught with a fish that is not legal. I guess in that case no one wins.
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I was thinking late planters also. Some of them take a real beating.
Now, let me ask.....you catch your limit, you take it home but don't eat it right away, can you go out and keep more, or is it IN your possession.
I mean I know you can keep fishing, but can you keep keeping?
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i think its 2 days worth of limits right. so say its a 6 trout limit i think you can have 12 in your possetion at home. in my mind 4 trout is to many.... unless there brookies [laugh]
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No , six fish total even at home . Not 12 I don't want anyone to get in trouble . I think the position limit should be double the daily limit . Some waters have a two fish limit and a lot of out of staters travel along ways and pay good money to go home with 2 fish . Curt G.
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realy its a one day limit? i always thought it was a 2 day limit? good thing i dont keep many slimers then
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