Stinky dead fish on shore

[StacyR]

Am I the only one who gets annoyed at people who throw dead fish up on shore? It's never the desirable species like bass and trout, it's always carp, suckers and other fish no one wants to eat. Someone had left a 3' carp on the rocks at Cottonwood and you could smell it halfway to the campground when the wind was blowing.

If you want to get rid of them but don't want to release them alive, pull the gills out or slit their belly and throw them back in. That way they can swim away and sink or at least die somewhere they won't make people want to puke. [crazy]
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[MMDon]

Not sure why people are killing them anyway. Kill a large one it's replace by two smaller ones. Most of the so called "trash" fish are limited only by the biomass itself. Killing them one at a time neither reduces the amount or the impact of these fish.
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[gstott]

It's even worse when it is a desirable species. I was on The Narrows yesterday and found about a foot long trout that someone had stomped on. It was flattened with it's guts spewed out everywhere, and a boot print in the mud on either side of it. They also left their worm container, a huge pile of line and six pack rings. People are pigs.
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[cpierce]

Makes me wonder why some people are out there fishing!

Not much stinks worse than rotting fish. I hate seeing floaters or carcasses on the shore. So bow hunters and others: If you are going to kill "trash" fish, please "ventilate" the abdomen and air sac so that they don't float. Otherwise please put them in a trash bin......a downwind trash bin! [crazy]
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[Duck-Slayer]

that's not a good stab at the bowhunters, not fair, most bow-fisherman don't kill these fish, we shoot them and let them go too be shot another day, I have shot fish with 4 scars in them before, its really hard too kill a carp unless you gut them or gill them... just saying.....[fishon]
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[cpierce]

I didn't mean to be unfair. I wasn't aiming at bow hunters as the only problem. Although I did mention them, it was to include them along with the regular fishermen. They at least leave them in the water.

Shore fishermen are more likely to heave them up on the bank and leave them. Boat or float fishermen also need to make sure the gut is punctured.....So I think that covers everyone.

It is my opinion though, that if you're going to shoot the carp, you ought to kill the carp also. Cut it's gills and perforate the gut. If you shoot them and just let them go, maybe they will make it, or maybe they will be one of those icky floaters. Leaving the fish with big wounds in it is like pulling the wings off of flies.....ICK! Sorry, it's a girl thing, and yes I do hunt, and I have bow hunted carp. Although it is a long time ago now.

I know land owners don't like bow hunters and others that target carp and then leave the carcases to float on to shore. It stands to reason that we might get more access from land owners if rotting fish on the shore isn't a result of our fishing or hunting. All just my opinion anyway!
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[jeremypeace]

i know the feeling about going some where and it reaking of dead fish.. about 2 weeks or so ago went to alexander and there were literally 50 or more dead fish in a pile.. and my father inlaws shitsue? *spelling* found it and thought that it was the coolest thing in the world to role around in it... one stinky car ride home I tell you what... best way to deal with carp if you want to try and help eradicate them is to.

1. cut there gills out
2. stab through fishes gut tell you hear a release of air..
3. put back in water to let them swim to the bottom.
4. watch the air bubbles as they swim..

sounds mean but better than a floating carcase and better than a stinken dead fish on the bank..
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[Huntsman]

"we shoot them and let them go too be shot another day..."

Ah, that doesn't make a lotta sense, and it goes surly goes against everything that good, ethical bowhunters are taught. Dead fish "feed" the water body that they are found in. If you are "releasing" a fish after stuffing an arrow through it, I would implore you to rip a gill and feed the lake...
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[Duck-Slayer]

[quote Huntsman]"we shoot them and let them go too be shot another day..."

Ah, that doesn't make a lotta sense, and it goes surly goes against everything that good, ethical bowhunters are taught. Dead fish "feed" the water body that they are found in. If you are "releasing" a fish after stuffing an arrow through it, I would implore you to rip a gill and feed the lake...[/quote]

wow, don't be putting your own spin on it boss, you don't know me, you don't know my ethics so go climb a tree.... sounds pretty unethical too gut puncture a fish and let it slowly die, lets try it with you, I would rather be out and about with some scars than not at all..... you hit the wrong spot.... I would soke you in the face if you said that too me in person, just cause its the internet you don't have too be rude....
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[Bmarsh]

In before the lock.......
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[idahoron]

To be honest DS I think you need to calm down, I don't think his remark deserves a punch in the face. When I catch carp I split them open and feed the catfish. Ron
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[MMDon]

[quote Duck-Slayer][quote Huntsman]"we shoot them and let them go too be shot another day..."

Ah, that doesn't make a lotta sense, and it goes surly goes against everything that good, ethical bowhunters are taught. Dead fish "feed" the water body that they are found in. If you are "releasing" a fish after stuffing an arrow through it, I would implore you to rip a gill and feed the lake...[/quote]

wow, don't be putting your own spin on it boss, you don't know me, you don't know my ethics so go climb a tree.... sounds pretty unethical too gut puncture a fish and let it slowly die, lets try it with you, I would rather be out and about with some scars than not at all..... you hit the wrong spot.... I would soke you in the face if you said that too me in person, just cause its the internet you don't have too be rude....
Matt[/quote]

I'd say it to you in person! Sticking arrow holes in animals and then tossing them back sounds pretty darn inhumane to me. Since you stated your 'ethics' I guess we can go on what you said rather than forming our own opinion as you suggested.
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[Stumped]

[quote gstott]It's even worse when it is a desirable species. I was on The Narrows yesterday and found about a foot long trout that someone had stomped on. It was flattened with it's guts spewed out everywhere, and a boot print in the mud on either side of it.[/quote]

I always look for the good in people and give them the benefit of the doubt, especially with next to nothing to go on. I'm sure it fell off the bed of their truck and was backed over. Then they stood over it crying about the loss, hence the boot prints.
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[idahoron]

I saw a Salmon Laying in the middle of the road up by Riggens a couple weeks ago. I assumed that it had not been put away and fell off. Ron
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[jabink89]

You have serious issues that you should probably address if you would hit someone over what was said. Plus I also agree that I goes against all ethics you are taught as a bowhunter. The first thing you learn is to how to make a CLEAN KILL, NOT A CLEAN WOUND. You can do what you want, but its still unethical. I think you have been on here a month or two.....You should try to be a little nicer if you actually plan on having any communication on this forum with others.
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[MMDon]

I used to think of bow hunters as a whole as the most ethical group around. I find it very disturbing, if what Duck-Slayer posted is true, that bow hunting is now some sort of catch and release sport. It makes me ill to realize how far down it's come.

It also makes me wonder if the blood lust hasn't taken over so this is being practiced with big game as well . . .
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[Huntsman]

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[font "Calibri"][size 3]Matt, I apologize if you took my reply wrong, and it’sevident that I hit a nerve. In today’sworld there are too many non-hunting folks watching everything we do assportsman, and if one of these anti-hunting folks saw your post of, [/size][/font]"we shoot them and let them go too be shot anotherday...", they would have a field day with it. That’s not my “spin on it”, that’s the realworld. If you go to the effort of “hunting”fish, it shouldn’t take much more effort to slit a gill. If for nothing else, do it in courtesy for the othersthat use the same resource, and for the fishery.
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BTW, internet or not, I wouldn’t hesitatefor a second to say it to your face, and you have at trying to “soke” (sock) me inthe face…lol. Best of luck with yourbowfishing…
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[fish-o-holic]

I am a bow hunter. I always try to make an ethical Kill everytime. I have bow fished a couple of times and always killed my carp for Crawdad bait or cutbait. I was unaware that you could shoot the fish release it and shoot it another day. I am not an expert on this subject so i dont know. Maybe some hard core carp shooters can chime in.
I dont like dead floating fish in the lake and even worse where i am trying to do a little fishing on the shore.
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[MMDon]

I was unaware of C&R bow hunting as well. I'm sure most bow hunters are still practicing ethical take measures and this isn't the future of the sport.
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[Spoons]

Here's my 2 cents...
Nobody likes the stank of dead fish, especially on the damn dog in the damn cab of the damn truck on the ride home after a day of fishing.
However, I don not feel that sticking a carp in the meat and letting it swim away is the same as sticking a deer or elk with a broadhead and letting it run off.
Maybe my sensitivity is deminished due to my childhood days, chasing carp around with a sharp stick at the snake river when the water dropped.
If the choices are.. Ripping the gills out, stabbing in the belly and watching it swim away or sticking it in the meat and letting it swim away... I'm kind of leaning towards the meat. I hate seeing anything getting away with the gutts hanging out.
I've never thrown a dead fish in someones yard, or a campground, or in the middle of a trail. However, I have fed many a skunk and racoon.
I feel that most folks on this site are "good outdoorsmen" and we are pretty much on the same page.
Whether we Rip Gills and Stab it in the belly or we Stick it in the meat and practice a more aggresive form of catch and release, whatever...
The fishing has to be pretty crappy for us to spend this much time getting this worked up and sideways from that orignal post regarding jackholes and deadfish sticking up a day of fishing.

Can someone please tell me where to catch some damn Crappie and Perch this weekend?

PS: Some of my scandanvian relatives used to pickle, pressure cook and can carp. Not this guy... not yet.. but if the fishing doesn't start picking up, I'm may need to bust out my bow and an old recipe.

Sincerely,
Spoons
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