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Question on the Popup Ice Shanty's..?
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Considering purchasing one of the new (at least to me) 6 person popup ice houses. Over at Sportsman's the Eskimo 6 person was around $270. The advantages seem to be the weight (38 lbs.) and the easy of setup and takedown. There does seem top be a possiblity of the wind blowing your house back to Kansas but I see it does come with ice hold-downs.

What are diSadvantages and advantages of these new homes on the harddeck? Longevity?

Do you recommend certain brands as I see Black (Frabill & Cabelas) & Red (Eskimo) and Blue (Clam).

Thanks for your feedback. [fishin]
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#2
My personal opinion is I love them. Easy to put up and put away for one person. I have the Eskimo quick fish 4. The only problem I have ever had is if it is windy and you don't tie the walls to a wheeler or hard deck the walls will collapse in on ya.
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A couple of years ago, my sweetheart wife bought me the 2 person frabill. Talk about a pain in the butt to put up, haul onto the ice and figure out where to drill the holes so you match the holes in the floor. Nothing like problems with a two seater. This year i got the eskimo 3 person quickfish. Easy to put up, no floor at all and easy to stake down with inner ice hook ups and string and outside hookups. You may get supprised if you don't hook up the sides and the wind starts to blow and the tent pops you. I got the one on sale at sportsmans for 130 plus. What a deal. I looked at the 6 man and thought aww to much. It is great when the grand kids come fishing with the old crusty and carry the tent in its bag with backpack straps. Put my heater in it and we were all warm and caught fish. My son was so impressed he went and got the same tent.
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For the price I would get the Fatfish. The footprint of that versus the 6 man are about the same because the bottom sticks out further. Plus it is easier to set up and put down with only a single hub. The six man is a little more difficult to keep all the cross bars from tangling up. [Wink]
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I've had a green Quik Fish 3 for 5 years now and I think it's a very well made shelter. The size is very comfortable for 2 fishermen and you can fish three guys in it if you squeeze a little. You should always use the ice screws to secure the bottom on the inside four corners. I use the outside tie downs if there is ANY chance of wind.
I like the fact that you can remove the ice screws and one guy can pick it up and move it if necessary. I'd suggest you pick up a pair of extra ice screws (about $10.00) because they don't float! They also have a way of finding the open holes completely by themselves.

The green color warms up on a clear day and it's usually very comfortable inside even without a heater. If it's windy, they can save the day if you have kids or the better half out on the ice.

I'm a Lund man also. You just can't find a better boat for the way I use one. Good luck out there and always be safe.

Mike
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I have the QuikFish 4 and it's great. It has an upper level that supposedly holds warm air in it like an attic - kinda gimmicky, if you ask me; I haven't used that yet- it makes it taller and dimensions are 6'x8'. Got it at Sportsman's a couple years ago.
About the outside tie downs - some of the stakes twist nicely into ice and others need pounded like nails. Get the pointy end ones that screw in better. Eskimo has those.
Also, upgrade the tie down "rope" - it's more like a string. Go for something with more strength.

Have fun and no more cracks about Kansas! Go Jayhawks! But also K-State vs. Oregon.[Smile]
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MrLipripper wrote:[/quote]
Also, upgrade the tie down "rope" - it's more like a string. Go for something with more strength. quote]

Agreed 100% with upgrading the so called rope. We have the QF3 and also QF4 and we use boat cover tie-down straps with buckles. Makes it so much easier to secure the tent sides in the wind and they work grrrreeeeaaatttt.

Heres a link so you can see what I'm talking about.

[url "http://www.overtons.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?i=75973"]http://www.overtons.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?i=75973[/url]

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I've got a Clam Basecamp and love it. I know Clam also make a larger model like you want. The reason I like it is because it has good heavy duty cloth and black interior which warms up inside very nicely if there is any sun at all. I've had it to about 65-70 degrees inside with no heater while it's in the teens outside. The black inside also makes for excellent visibility in clear water. Lots of fun to sight fish in 30 ft of water.
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You cant go wrong with any pop up hut you buy. I will say this tho. The Eskimo fat fish models are nice Cause the bottom is larger. I looked into the clams. I like that They have heavy duty material. But in all reality if you have a heater, the thinner material that Eskimo uses is just fine. I personally have the Eskimo fatfish 949 and I love it. Good for 3 people. My buddy has the fatfish 9416 which is basically two of mine put together and I have to say It's nice to have for 4 people or more. Just make sure you buy some extra stakes and rope. I had a day when I had to use all 8 stakes Cause the wind kept changing. Plus those stakes always somehow find a way to get lost.
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I do most my hard deckin at the gorge and have seen some crazy crazy wind. My quick fish 3 has held up awesome. My pops got the six in the cabelas brand and the first wind storm absolutely shredded it. If you want a bigger one than the 3 I would go with one of the new fatfish models. That will be my next tent.
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I've got a Quikfish 3 and a buddy has the 6. The 6 is awesome for all the room, but it's a bit much for one guy to set up all by himself. My buddy does it, but it's a chore. Not bad to set up with two people.

As stated before, the new Fatfish has a lot more floor space. I'm thinking of trading up. I've been very satisfied with my QF3. The "3" designation is overly optimistic though. It's great for two people.
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#12
I looked at the Eskimo, and really liked it. My friend got one on clearance at sportsmans and it was great. I decided on the 6 man one from Cabelas. I got it during the employee pricing sale and it was a great deal. I have set it up by myself and have taken it down in the wind. Trick is leaving one side staked down and let the wind kinda help collapse it while you gather it together. Then remove stakes and throw in bag. This is year three with this tent and so far the ONLY complaint would be the fabric seem to be thinning out quite a bit. I noticed this day one and it's starting to get worse. The newer canoas tents seem to have better quality fabric. With it being black, even on cloudy days it gets toasty. I also got a thing in the mail the other day for the employee pricing sale at Cabelas so you could check it out and see.
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I have owned 5 different pop ups. To me the clam has been the best. I have the command post 6 man currently. The construction and quality is by far better than the Eskimos. The major factor to me has been the head room also. The clams are taller. I have noticed though that Eskimo has fixed a lot of the issues I had with them when I owned them.
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I have a red Eskimo Quick Fish 4 and a Black Frabrill 6. I sold my green Quick Flip to purchase my Eskimo. Best "trade" ever. Much lighter and easier to transport. The Eskimo is the heavier material of the two (Eskimo and Frabrill). Seldom use the Eskimo since getting the 6. My wife and I use it. Lots of room. We could put in a bed at each end and still fish in the middle. Putting them up and taking them down is a breeze alone or with help if you learn the trick of how to fold them up. As far as ice screws... Eskimo makes the best. They twist in easily. All the others I have been around are too fine of thread and just don't cut into the ice. You almost have to pound them in. Eskimo are pricy, but worth the extra cost. You can purchase them in packages of 3. I've had my 6 up in windy conditions. They stay put really well if staked down. Lay them out if breezy and stake them down before putting up the sides. When taking them down in wind, put them on the ground before removing the stakes. Always work towards the center. Top goes up first and goes down last. After the top is up, pull out the sides. When taking down, sides go in first and top last. Everything folds to the center. Doesn't matter if it is a 3, 4 or 6, it all works the same. Once you learn this, you can put up a tent in a matter of minutes (about 2) even if it is a 6 and you are by yourself. I am going to get an auger bit to fit my cordless drill and start drilling the holes for the ice screws. This also would save a lot of time and would make putting them in a breeze.
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