Skies on ice sled??

[Flyfishinglover]

Just curious what are the best screw, nuts, and bolts should I get. Got a pretty big sled for sport men warehouse and I might just grab some of my old pairs and toss them on too see how easy the hauling is with it.
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[brookieguy1]

Depends what you bought at SW, but putting skis on a Jet Sled would be crazy. They pull as easy as it's going to get the way they come. Only thing to make it any easier is a snowmobile to tow it with.
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[rspeters]

Actually, I think skies make it a bit easier to pull because there's less drag. At least that's what I have observed.

In regards to the bolts, I used carriage bolts and countersunk them and then used wingnuts to fasten them at top. But I actually built a frame out of 2x6's, and 2x4's. You can google 'smitty sled' and see a lot of things people have done in making homemade sleds.
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[kokonee]

It's skiis guys []
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[rspeters]

Ha, I knew skies didn't look right. 'Skis' looks much better.
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[brookieguy1]

[quote kokonee]It's skiis guys [][/quote]Actually, I believe it's "skis".[]
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[Crimson]

Just a couple of thoughts. Seems like the skis would add weight to the outfit you are pulling. Also, the skis may be fine for ice and a couple of inches of snow, but what if there is deep powder or wet snow that the skis bog down in?

There is another option, you may know of. They sell plastic runners that you can attach to the bottom of the sled and hopefully makes it easier to pull.

You must be a young strong guy. I'm 72 and have gone lighter and lighter as I've aged. I now use what is probably a kids sled, only about 3 inches deep, and only as long as my Nils drill with the handle folded down. I only take the bare necessities when I go out now.

But I have never tried skis on a sled, so maybe its something you have to try to experiment! Good Luck! []
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[toadscorn]

I welded up a sled using half inch square tubing. Once loaded with my tent , gas auger, propane tank and everything else it weighs close to 150. I used carriage bolts like mentioned above but did not bother countersinking them. It pulls just as easy if not easier then my small jet sled with half as much stuff loaded. The round head of the carriage bolts creates even less drag especially at The Gorge where its usually ice only and no snow. I used like 10mm bolts and got the skis from the thrift store.
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[brookieguy1]

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[CoyoteSpinner]

http://www.bigfishtackle.com/forum/Utah_...ead#unread

[quote brookieguy1][quote kokonee]It's skiis guys [][/quote]Actually, I believe it's "skis".[][/quote]


Ahahha lol rofl and all that
It's skis, the skies are blue and above, BUT you can go Skiing, just watch for pointy headed rainbow colored skiers coming at ya with an auger in tow!

FFL, there been a few threads over the years. See link at the top. Maybe step back to the ice fishing board too, theres a few options and discussions.

[icejunkie]

When I put the skies on mine I used screws and went rite though the sled and into the ski, then ground the bottom of the screw off even with the bottom of the ski. I put a flage washer on the inside and then a grabber screw,then cut the skies offeven with the back of the sled and that sucker really slides
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[kokonee]

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[MightyMOE]

As far as hardware goes use stainless. I have taken 2"x6"s by 10" and stood them up. Used 3" lag bolts 2 per board with large fender washers. Pre drill your holes for the lags as for easier install. The skis used stainless as well 1 1/2" or 2" has worked for me. If your sled is a wider version, a cross brace may be needed.

Hope this was helpful.
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[dubob]

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[font "Comic Sans MS"][#800000][size 3]If you attach skis directly to the bottom of the sled you gain very little if any advantage to pulling through the snow as you still have the entire under surface of the sled making contact with the snow which is still creating the same drag. You need to raise the sled itself OFF the snow to make it easier to pull and you do that by placing the skis several inches (say 10 to 12) BELOW the bottom of the sled. This will give you the reduced drag that makes it easier to pull.[/size][/#800000][/font]
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][#800000][size 3]The plastic runners available to attach to the sled bottom are designed to reduce the wear factor that is present when pulling across bare ice and parking lots. They have very little effect regards ease of pulling. Same drag factor as with the sled itself.[/size][/#800000][/font]
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][#800000][size 3]There are dozens of ways to attach skis to sleds. Google this phrase – “attaching skis to ice sleds” – and take your pick. All who have done so agree that getting the sled itself up OFF the snow will make the pulling much easier.[/size][/#800000][/font]
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[MightyMOE]

I agree dubob, drag is drag. Especially in deep or fresh snow. Although I personally believe skis do help, if and when the sled is elevated.
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[fmrusmc]

150 pounds? I'm hoping you pull it with a snowmobile or something.
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[talonfisher]

I made a wooden sled with skis as runners. The sled sits 8" above the skis. It works wonders on hard pack. I took it to Strawberry last week and in the deep slush it almost would not go (being pulled behind a snowmobile). In fact, the drag force from the slush broke the tips of the skis right off. In this situation a flat bottomed sled, like a Jet sled, would have been much better suited. It would have stayed on top of the slush much better. Best advice....avoid the deep slush![laugh]
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[curt69]

I have skis on my jet sled and my quick flip 2 . Makes all the difference . I also put teflon on the bottom to protect the skis . Pulls easy , even over a dry parking lot .
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[GEEZER]

I've had sleds both ways, skis and no skis and found that overall no skis is the best way to go. If you have a well travelled surface a ski equipped sled will pull a little easier but if you're going through unpacked snow the skis tend to sink in and will eat your lunch. The easiest pulling I've found is when I dissolve a hunk of plain old paraffin wax in a little gasoline and paint the bottom of my jet sled with it. DO THIS LITTLE PROJECT COMPLETELY OUTDOORS.
I'm just weeks shy of my 74th. b-day so I gotta make things as easy as possible. Also keep the weight down all you can (obviously).
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[toadscorn]

Surprisingly it pulls real easy weighing that much when on the ice, its getting it up a hill that becomes a task. Typically we only go to the Gorge where you can park right on the edge so dont have to worry about that.
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