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Archery fishing for carp
#1
I was reading in the 2014 fishing proclamation, because I’m considering getting into bow-fishing for carp. And the DWR was gracious enough to provide a list of bodies of water that we can take carp from using this method. I noticed that Utah lake and Willard Bay wasn’t on this list. It’s on page 12 & 15. Is it because of the grass carp? If so then what are they doing with them on Utah lake when they net for them? Can anyone shed some light on this for me?

Below is a cut and past out of the proclamation.

You may also use artificial lights while bow-fishing for carp.
Carp are the only nongame fish you may take in the following waters:
• Ash Creek
• Beaver Dam Wash
• Colorado River
• Diamond Fork
• Duchesne River (from the Myton SR-40 bridge to the confluence with the Green River)
• Fort Pierce Wash
• Green River (from the Colorado state line in Browns Park upstream to Flaming Gorge Dam, including Gorge Creek, a tributary that enters the Green River at Little Hole)
• Green River (from the confluence with the Colorado River upstream to the Colorado state line in Dino¬saur National Monument)
• Hobble Creek
• La Verkin Creek
• Main Canyon Creek (tributary to Wallsburg Creek)
• Provo River (below Deer Creek Dam)
Raft River (from the Idaho state line, including all
tributaries)
• San Juan River

• Santa Clara River (from Pine Valley Reservoir downstream to the confluence with the Virgin River)
• Snake Valley waters (west and north of US-6 and the part of US-6 and US-50 in Millard and Juab counties)
• Spanish Fork River
• Thistle Creek
• Virgin River (main stem and the north and east forks)
• Weber River
• White River (Uintah County)
• Yellow Creek
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#2
You are misreading the language:

"Carp are the only nongame fish you may take in the following waters:..."

On those waters one can only take carp and no other nongame fish. On all other waters one can take carp and all other nongame fish.
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#3
Utah lake, deer creek and Yuba are going to be your best bets for easy carp killing without a duck boat.
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#4
Oh good, Thanks for the clarification!
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#5
The reason for the special regulations on those bodies of water is because they have endangered protected species of fish.
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#6
Don't forget about pineview right now. It's carp killing heaven from what I've seen last week. Saw 2 people shooting carps for a while and they were having tons of fun for sure.
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#7
The Bowfishing at pine view doesn't suck right now Wink
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#8
Good lord! What do you plan on doing with all those?
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#9
we are indebted to you my good sir.
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#10
Well it makes great bear bait from what I hear Smile but some people dig a pit and burry them. It was a pretty good night 2 of us shot 311 in 4.5 hrs. A good time for sure and it will only get better when they start the spawn. 62 degrees in the shallows and it will be game on!
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#12
Nice!

The details in the fishing guide aren't very specific about bow fishing.

Are there any rules about bows or arrows that must be used? (I saw crossbows were out, but that's about the only equipment rule I saw).

I've been thinking about getting a very small youth bow to use on my tube for some close range de-carping of Deer Creek, etc.
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#13
Crossbows are out for sure. But aside from that pretty much any bow will do. The only real thing to consider is the poundage you want to shoot for the depth you will be shooting. As far as arrows go there are plenty of good options out there but just a standard white 1,100 grain fiberglass arrow will do just fine. It's always a good idea to have a backup arrow or two just in case you happen to lose one. If you swing by sportsmans warehouse or cabelas they have a fairly decent selection to get you going and you can always shop around at the dozens of online shops on the internet that have a much larger selection to get you set up.
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#14
This bow would be to shoot from a tube at carp right on the surface at 15 yards or less.

The key is small so I can take it on the tube with the fishing gear I already have.
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#15
My personal opinion is find something in the 40 lb range. You will have enough power to get that distance without arrow flop or wobble and it won't be over kill to the point that you would be shooting all the way through the fish. A youth model might be a good bet due to compact size and poundage.
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#16
The arrow is more key than the bow. Heavier arrows are able to absorb a higher percentage of the available kinetic energy stored in the bow. I shoot carp with my hunting weight recurves and longbows, but shooting carp even 4-5" deep, you can do with a 25lb kids bow if that is all you had. Trajectory might mean short shots.

I'm a big traditional and primitive archery afficionado, and have shot carp and suckers with replica paleo/tribal gear I made myself. They often shoot 5-6' long spear-like arrows for the same reasons. Big long bamboo arrows, with the heads made of split bamboo, notched, etc...

You can get everything you need at an archery shop OR an ace Hardware. The actual "stuff" you need to go get carp isn't much. To hit it all day hot and heavy is another thing, I guess.

Ever heard of a "panda bow"? A bow made from bundled bamboo garden stakes and duct tape, paired with a reel made of a Coke bottle full of construction foam, will kill carp. Just cut and stagger 3/8" bamboo stakes until it bends in a nice arc of a circle. Add short ones to build up handle. Use drapery cord for string.

Fill a liter soda bottle with spray foam or chunks of foam and color it brightly with tape or paint. Put a wooden plug In the neck. Drill a 3/8" hole in the plug down into the bottle. Run a 4" long 3/8" bolt throught the middle of a skinny wood slat and tape it to the handle of your bow, bolt out. Slip the bottle neck over that bolt. Wind your ine onto this, and if you want to, the bottle can slip off for a drag float. Just use surveying line for string. They use this rig for stingrays and stuff in the Gulf States.

If you don't want to buy a fiberglass arrow, get a straight 3/8" oak dowel, 48" long. Leave it full length. Soak it in linseed oil or tung oil. Cut a nock and drill a small chamfered hole for the line close to the head. Make a barbed metal head. Kill carp.
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#17
Great report! It's nice to see feedback from all angles. I guess everyone has their own way of doing things and the best part is that they all will work out just fine. I guess it really just depends on weather you are going out to shoot a few here and there with the more traditional setup or if you are really planning on putting the hurt on them and putting a little more wear and tear on your gear. I'm just glad to see more people getting out and shooting a few and watching the sport grow around here.
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#18
It's fun no matter what! There are people all over the world that feed their families with very basic gear. But if I was in a tourney or something, then I'd want all the bells and whistles. I xo have a lot of modern gear, too, everything from old school drum reels to cabled arrows and Muzzy heads.

Seems a lot of people would just like to do it, or harvest bait at UL the fast way. That big post was kin da for them.
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#19
I just want people to know that if they want to bowfish for carp, they don't need 800.00 in equipment! Go try it. Grab any old bow and a long, heavy arrow with a barbed head and try. Most primitive bowfishers don't even use a line and rely on the size and weight of the arrow to anchor fish.
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#20
I got a Mission by Mathews compound for Christmas and the Shakespeare reel and arrow set-up. I have a coupl of pontoons I can stand on and a small aluminum boat that I have every intention of using it for said purpose!
You Rock! So, you don't have a line hooked to your arrow?
I thought it would be cool to shoot the Carp in the Jordan river by my house but you have to be so many feet from a building or house, and I fall short on that.
Master Dad, my bow is pretty small and it goes 15 to 70 lbs.

Great post, got me foaming at the bit.
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