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I was in Stanley this weekend and went to the hatchery. There were a few "native american's" I am guessing fishing right in the ladder that goes into the hatchery. The sign clearly states that natives have to fish 100 yards down river. So here these guys are out with full on snagging gear ripping through the water as it comes out of the hatchery. I yelled at them that they needed to read the sign but I got the finger. I called CAP and turned it in. The operator said a CO would call but never did. Man IU was so pissed off over that. Ron
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These stories are tough to hear. I think they deserve some salmon just like everybody else. But when you hear these stories about total disregard for the rules, you can't help but lose respect for these folks.
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I am hoping that the CO caught them in the act and pinched them. But I don't know if a F&G CO can even do anything to them. My wife and the other people with me were disgusted with the whole thing. It seems like they are above the law.
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The tribe has there own fish and game officers. I highly doubt there was anything done to them.
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That was what I was afraid of.
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Do you know that most of the fish they catch goes to pet food?
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[quote dtayboyz]Do you know that most of the fish they catch goes to pet food?[/quote]
I did, but that doesn't mean that they should be allowed to break the law. I had some choice names I was calling them.
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There wasn't anyone from the F&G outside.
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I understand that they have tribal rights, but if they claim tribal rights then they should have to use only traditional native methods only for hunting and fishing.
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I agree 100 percent
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Correct. They should have to drag their teepee down to fish camp from the reservations on their little ponies. Fish should all be dried on racks before the long journey back. No selling it.
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I agree also. No snagging. Hand made dip nets, stick bows and spears are all good in my book. Snagging with a heavy action rod and high strength line is shameful.
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The hooks were 3 to 4 inches long and had a lead weight in the center of them. Do tribal rules allow it?
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what rules? I thought it was "by any and all means necessary"
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I am afraid your right. [:/]
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Ya, I was pretty stoked when I heard that they couldn't stand right at the entrance to the trap.
The first report I heard was that they were standing where they were supposed to, but casting up into the pile gathered near the weir.
Now this. So I guess that big idea didn't last too long.
Need to set it up more like Rapid River I guess. So the immediate area near the trap can't even be accessed.
Like I said, I still believe they deserve to get their half of the excess. But there has to be some acknowledgement and respect for the rules, limits, and quotas. I see little, if any. It's more like Hungry Hippos. A greedy grab fest, with no thought for the future or anyone else for that matter. What ever happened to respect for the resource? I thought that's what it was all about....
Ideally though, I think we should get over what went down half a century ago, and live in the now. Sure we all can dream, but this "what if" business is a bunch of bologna. What if Spartacus had a Piper Cub? What if Superman was born in Germany? I wish so many people hadn't moved into Cache Valley, but c'mon, get real.
Lets share the same quota. Follow the same rules. Catch them in a civilized manner. Release the wild ones. And have the rules upheld for us all by the same agency. It's hard to put an end to racism when we are still segregating ourselves. Ya, I said it.
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I got no beef with them takinng hatchery fish however they want. I have a huge beef with them also targeting wild fish in the spawning creeks. tradition or not those fish should be off limits
I think they got a raw deal in the treaties. However, the reality of it is, the land grab was gunna happen. The alternative was much more messy. The problem is when the treaties were written no one could forsee the current situation. I dont think they are relevent as written anymore. But they aint going anywhere in my lifetime so at least police them so they have to abide by current rules.
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is that they also go up creeks like valley creek and marsh creek and take those few that still make a run up the small tributaries (100 percent native fish) and do they same thing to them. ![[Image: happy.gif]](http://www.bigfishtackle.com/images/gforum/happy.gif)