Test of STD rules:

[SBennett]

I have researched as much as possible and think I have found my answer but it doesn't make any sense at all:
My daughter wants to fish DC this saturday but I have a trip planned to Powell the thursday after.
According to the STD rules IF I fish DC this saturday I am only legally allowed to launch at Powell the following thursday if I either self or professionally decontaminate. To self decontaminate is impossible due to the time frame and to professionally decontaminate is highly unlikely as I seriously doubt The State has a decon station set up at DC this saturday?
My question is this...... Should there not be a third catagory on the STD form allowing launch, with no decontamination stipulation, from one infested water in to another infested water without a mandated waiting period?
Maybe I am missing something?
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[Freakyfisherman]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the wait time for DC at this point in time is 15 days. I sure hope they remove the quagga scare soon from DC. I have not heard of any positive tests coming back from DC for the mussels. Its not so bad in the summer when the wait time is only 7 days, but right now, its 15.
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[MasterDaad]

To answer you last point: NO! there should not be a third category allowing cross-contaminated launching. Primarily because as of today, DC is not really contaminated and we really don't want to allow boats from LP to launch at DC.

To help you out with your quandry: The state has several decon locations set up and I do believe the DC one is operative.

You can call and set up a time that works for you for decontamination at a number of locations.
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[MSM1970]

You should be ok, there was nobody checking us when we went in, the DNR has a inspection station on the way out, there was 2 people there, we got deconed and a blue tag around the boat eye, you don't have to get deconed and you will get a orange tag, I would call DC park 435-654-0171, see what he says, we put the yearly decon cert on the dash down there just to be safe,
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[SkunkedAgain]

Did I miss something in my class, I thought if you had the decon done by the professionals you could launch the next day??? Also I thought the spring and fall was 18 days to self decontaminate?? Maybe I missed important info in the class.. Later J
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[Therapist]

A couple of points that everyone is missing. First, you launch at Deer Creek the get your boat deconed by the Parks folks at Deer Creek as you leave, or make an appointment at Utah Lake State Park to get deconed. Once you get the boat deconed, they will attach a tag that will allow you to launch anywhere. The self decon is what would take 15 days this time of year.

Second, Lake Powell is already contaminated with mussels, so you would not be infecting it. Just make sure you get your boat cleaned there before you leave, again, they will give you a tag stating you are clean and good to go elsewhere.

The Clean, Drain, Dry mode is only if you do not have DNR personnel power wash your boat. You get them to wash it ( or pay to have it washed), you are good to go, the same day !!

Take your daughter to Deer Creek Sat, enjoy the trip, get washed by the Parks folks, and head to Powell and have a great time there !

[SBennett]

If DC is not a mussel affected lake like you claim, the State sure has a funny way of showing it.
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[TubeDude]

[quote SBennett]If DC is not a mussel affected lake like you claim, the State sure has a funny way of showing it.[/quote]

[#0000FF]While it is not on the list as a badly infected lake, there were vilegers (larvae) found in their sampling less than 2 years ago. There have been no other findings since, but the regs are that the lake be considered as suspect/infected until the prescribed period of time since no other evidence is found. I think that is about 3 years.

DWR does not shift and alter their regs to suit any of us who rationalize their personal needs. Kinda like being married...only you gotta get a hot water wash.
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[SBennett]

Yep, I agree 100%.

What cracks me up is how we are allowed to self-certify the D and D method but we are not allowed to self-certify if we go to the trouble to clean our equipment with >140 f. degree water???
Figure that one out.
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[SBennett]

You did not miss anything, you are correct.
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[MisterCompletely]

[quote MasterDaad]as of today, DC is not really contaminated[/quote]

I wonder what you mean by "as of today"?
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[SBennett]

If you only wait 15 days this time of year you risk a very large ticket and possible confiscation of your equipment.
You are welcome.
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[wiperhunter2]

[quote SkunkedAgain]Did I miss something in my class, I thought if you had the decon done by the professionals you could launch the next day??? Also I thought the spring and fall was 18 days to self decontaminate?? Maybe I missed important info in the class.. Later J[/quote]
Have you taken the yearly self certification test, that you take on line every year, instead of filling out that paper every time you launch? When I took it a few weeks ago I thought it said the time was 15 day, not 18 days. I guess it must have changed or I read it wrong.
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[Crimson]

I thought I read that since mussels have been found in Lake Powell, they don't worry about inspecting your boat for them or if you have been to an infested water. You can launch without a problem.

But,, you must comply with the requirements for decontaminating your boat after taking the boat out of the water.

Google it! or better yet call the Park service at Powell where you are launching to make sure. Good Luck!
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[SBennett]

Thanks!
You are probably right. I only read the State rules and now that you mention it I bet what I needed was a fed guideline. That is probably what I was missing.
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[SBennett]

Always been 18 for spring.
Be careful out there and have fun!
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[GoodGravy]

This is directly from the online course:

Specific Waterbody Information

Lake Powell is part of the Glen Canyon National Recreation Area, a unit of the National Park Service. The Glen Canyon National Recreation Area, spans areas of both Utah and Arizona. Use of the recreation area, including boat launch, is controlled by the National Park Service, which requires a recreation area fee plus a boat use fee, regardless of where you launch. The National Park Service and their concessions, in cooperation with the states of Utah and Arizona, routinely inspect boats at launch ramps to check for compliance with aquatic invasive species laws. In past years, the National Park Service has required a completed certification form prior to launching at Lake Powell. This form was distributed by NPS technicians. However, with the recent infestation of Lake Powell with quagga mussels, certification prior to launching is no longer required. You may still encounter a technician on the boat ramp that will quickly inspect your boat for any attached debris or vegetation, but no pre-launch steps are now required.

I can also verify the 18 days in spring and fall, as I am now the proud owner of an annual certificate for display on my dashboard.

[SkunkedAgain]

Hey Curt I just took the course and I think it was 18 days because I thought it was 15 as well and it made me question it. Hey just checked my certificate it is 18 days this year. Later J
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[wyoguy]

Shane..when we launched at Bullfrog last Nov. they did not require any inspection at all, because they are already infected. They do a walk around when you leave, but they won,'t use their equipment to decon you, you must either get it done somewhere else or wait the 18 days to launch else where. That's how it was in Nov..
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[MSM1970]

the dnr had a decon station set up, we left sunday about 2 pm, there was 2 people there, look on stdofthesea website, call down there and they can tell you if they will able to decon when you leave, it took 20 minutes and we where clean.
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