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Need help with new sinking fly line
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I posted this on the flyfishing board but I thought I would post here as well.... I'm looking to buy a new sinking fly line. I was looking at the SA wetcel lines and the SA uniform sink line. Can anyone tell me the difference between a wetcel sinking line and a uniform sink line. Obviously they both sink but how are they different and why would you use one over the other and why? SA seems to have a good selection of lines but are there better lines out there?? Thanks!
Bigcat
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#2
wetcel line sinks slower than the uniform. They both are actually pretty good lines. For maximum performance go with 1 WT size smaller than posted on your rod.
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#3
Uniform Sink is suppose to sink in a straighter line than the wetcel with the belly sag . Scientific Anglers is a good line to go with . I tried a few others and always go back to SA . I have caught fish on both lines you mention .
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The construction is totally different between the two lines, the uniform sink is designed as it's name implies so that the whole line sinks at the same rate and does not get a belly to it. It is higher priced but is more effective to catch fish.
You can get several sink rates in both lines,make sure you do not mix up sink rate with rod weight.

As for quality it is very good,Rio-Density compesated is my favorite for durability,Cortland steady sink will preform well also.
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HFT, UTBASS, HA69,
Thanks for you input on the sinking line. HFT-is the Rio desnsity compensated line more like a wetcel line that will have a "belly" (sounds like what I have since thanksgiving day![Wink]) or more like a uniform sink line? Does the belly portion of the wetcel sink faster than the tip or is the belly more boyant? In other words is it a down sag or an up sag. I currently fish a Rio multitip sinking line with interchangable sinking tips however the main line floats so in essence I get a up sag (the belly more boyant than the tip) with my current line. If the fish are shallow it works just fine but not if they are deeper. I also fish a Rio floating line which I like. So I am curious about the Rio density compensated. Thanks again for the information!
Bigcat
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no same technology as uniform-no belly. Main stream is like wet cel.
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#8
My Rio lines cast well but are very rough. I tend to bleed on my stripping fingers by the end of the day, especially on cold days when I grip my lines tighter. Cortland and SA slide through the fingers better.

Windriver
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I have fished SA Wet Cel and Uniform Sink lines for many many years and prefer the Wet Cel in most cases.

The belly of the Wet Cel sinks faster than the tip - allowing one to start stripping the line once the belly is near or on the bottom. The stripping actions will raise the belly a little and bring the fly down toward the bottom, thus allowing the fly to remain on the bottom of the lake for 50 feet of a 70 foot cast. I use a Wet Cel II in water about 8 feet deep, a Wet Cel III between 8 to 15 feet and a Wet Cel IV in water between 15 to25 feet. If I need to go to 40 feet deep, I add a 10-foot length of 18# lead core between a Wet Cel IV and my leader.

The Uniform Sink line forms a straight line between the rod and the fly. Thus as one strips in the line, the fly has a tendency to climb and one will only fish the bottom about 15 feet in a 70 foot cast. And if you are drifting in the wind, a Uniform Sink line will "plane" on you - very seldom ever reaching the bottom. I use a Uniform Sink II in water 2 to 6 feet deep when the fish like the fly climbing, a Uniform Sink III in 10 t0 12 feet when the fish like the fly climbing: etc, etc.

I also find the SA lines much smoother than other lines with less wear and tear on the fingers. Worn out guides will make an SA line rough and will wear it out very fast.

Bill
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#10
Thanks windriver and Bsflies for your input on a sinking line.

Windriver- did you get my PM about meal worms and how to best take care of them?

Bill - Thank you for the clear explanation of the difference and different uses of the two types of lines. The question first came about after reading your Henrys Lake book about 2 weeks ago. I didn't really understand it after reading the book but now I understand it and can picture the different uses. Thanks you I appreciate it. Really enjoyed the book as well, filled with lots of good information. Can't wait for opening day next year!
Bigcat
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