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What's with the hooks?
#1
I was just curious. I was looking up Mustad circle hooks. There are three variations of the hook:

1. Demon Black
2. Dura/Tin
3. Tin

I noticed the Tin variation is really cheap. It's like around 15 bucks for 100 of those tin 7/0 hooks. That cheap as dirt. But, are those tin hooks worth a crap? What's the difference is those three?
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#2
[center][font "Poor Richard"][black][size 4][green]Hi there Tarpon4me - Was trying to figures out if their hooks are tin coated. Went to Mustads home pages but couldn't locate an answer to this question. Here is a defination I found for tin:[/green] [/size][/black][/font][#800000]Tin is a chemical element in the periodic table that has the symbol Sn (L. Stannum) and atomic number 50. This silvery, malleable poor metal that is not easily oxidized in air and resists corrosion is found in many alloys and is used to coat other metals to prevent corrosion. Tin is obtained chiefly from the mineral cassiterite where it occurs as an oxide.
[font "Poor Richard"][green][size 4]So maybe these hooks are coated with tin. Or the hooks are a compound which includes tin.[/size][/green][/font]
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#3
The reason I asked is because the price for 100 7/0 circle hooks is only like 25 bucks. That's dirt cheap. And the other two types of circle hooks, "dura/tin" and "demon black" were way more expensive. Maybe it's just the finish. I just didn't want to spend the money and end up with a hundred crappy hooks that weren't good for anything. I'm still going to wait until someone knows for shure before I buy them. Thanks for the research though!!!!!!!!!![cool]
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[center][font "Poor Richard"][green][size 4]Hey there Tarpon4me why don't you just buy a small pack of these hook. Then if you don't like them you haven't a big investment to lose. Better yet e-mail them your question.[/size][/green][/font][/center]

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#5
[Tongue] I would, however, the only way I saw those particular hooks was in 100 packs. But, I didn't search very hard either, let me check into that. That's a good thought.
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#6
ok here it is,

the reason one is higher in price than the other is the carbon content of the steel used to make the hook.

the higher the carbon content the harder the steel. the lighter the carbon content the easyer it is to bend the hook.

I was looking at them today as well at gander mountain and dicks. I was looking for stainless steel or nickle plated for salt water fishing.

to put it simply I would not use the cheep hooks on salmon musky stergeon paddle fish, basicly any fish that gets over 12 pounds and puts up a fight.

they are fine for bass, carp, walleye, baisicly most medium fresh water fish. keep those hooks out of the salt water, one dip and they rust.

hope this helps.

what was you planning on using them on. I found them in 25 packets for about 3 somthing.
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#7
Well, I use 6/0 to 7/0 circle hooks for multiple species. I like them particularly because circle hooks are designed to "hunt" for the corner jaw of the fish. I've also noticed a direct increase in hook-ups over all; and when I do get a good hook set, I rarely ever loose a fish. I use them exclusively for live baiting large gamefish, the majority of the time king-sized flathead catfish. I was seriously considering just spending the money and getting a few packs of Gamakatsu's. I wish I could find a bulk pack of them. I also need some Kahle hooks as well. I use Kahle hooks for flounder, speckled trout, and a few other species that have an over-sized mouth. Any suggestions?
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[url "http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0036835318980a&type=product&cmCat=Search_Results_NYR&returnString=Ntk=Products&QueryText=kale+hook&_D%3AhasJS=+&Go.y=13&trueNum=3&hasJS=true&Ne=4842&Ntt=kale+hook&noImage=0&Ntx=matchall&N=4842&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jsp.22&Go.x=10&returnPage=search-results2.jsp"][/url]click on the cabela's link on the upper right hand corner and copy and paist this in the search box.
Eagle Claw Lazer Sharp® [#ff0000]30-Piece King Kahle Hook Kit
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they also have packets as well if you type in salt water hooks.

stainless steel hooks and nickle plated hooks are good for salt water.

I keep running in to the same problem in the stores, all the items I am looking for seem to be out of stock.

I would sugest you stock up when the new shipment comes in come february. this is the case every where. the 2006 shipments dont come in till feb 1. and it may take a week or three to fill all the empty slots in all the stores.

those coated hooks are not realy for salt water but the coating dose help to keep the rust off for a while till the coating peals.

the Gamakatsu circle hooks do come in 25 count packs. maybe bass proshop has them in the big book if you dont see them on their shelves. I called the two major dristributors and found I could buy them in that count but I could buy them cheeper by the small packet counts off the shelf and that is not even counting shipping and handling cost.

Owner makes a mutu light hook. for fresh and light salt water, comes in sizes 1/0 - 5/0.

Daiichi makes a CircleChunk hook sizes 1/0 - 3/0 - 5/0 - 7/0.

Gamakatsu makes a black nickel Sure Grip hook and G-Lock hook the G-Lock is vary similar to the Kahle with the eception of the offset eye. (more inline)
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#9
Hey, thanks for the hook info. It's been kinda heck-tick getting everything together. I don't think South Coast fisherman go through an "off season," it stays pretty warm year around. Here, you go through a drought for about 3 or 4 months, depending on when mother nature decides to get her crap together and warm it back up. We have 4 entire months to sit and think about what we need, what to do different that we did wrong, what to keep doing that we did right, sit and gloat over the new equipment we've bought and can't use yet, plan our first fishing trip of the season, clean and prep all the rods and reels, make riggs, and all the other fun stuff. I take my rigs VERY serious, and hooks are a large part of it, unfortunately, so is price. So, i'm at a crossroads. It might just be best for me to wait until payday and take my butt to Bass pro up the road and buy the equipment in person. I'm also looking for a good 25lb class line, and I was considering Yo Zuri Hybrid until Tubn2 expressed how bad the memory was. I might just have to go back to old faithful Berkely Big Game. My next trick is to order all the nav/land/fish charts for the local waters that I fish. I'm going to hang the charts in my bedroom(my wife is going to love that[cool]) and plot the trips based on structure, water depth, and location VIA GPS; when I figure out what GPS to get. My feelings are that using a detailed fishing log in conjunction with Nav Maps so you can not only record your results, but mark it on the map, will prove to be helpful. Especially tagging fish, you might even learn migratory patterns, feeding and bedding locations, thier route of travel, etc... It might be possible to track a fish species so well that you'd know exactly where and when they'd be at a location. It may take a couple of years to achieve this far fetched capability, but it won't be for lack of trying.
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Ya, I know what you mean, today I stripped down my grannies old sears Kenmore sewing machine, I figured since I will never find parts for it, not that any one would ever need a replacement part for one, the thing was built to last for ever.

I am going to build me a spool winder. I was planning on a rapper but I would have to build a longer room in the house for a 12 foot rod let alone a bench to hold one.

It took me about 6 hours to get it all broken down in to parts, then separate them in to probability piles of parts that I will use, might use, could possibly use and I wouldn’t know what to do with it pile.

The thing weighted about 40 pounds. Watch now that I dismantled it I will need to sew a new boat cover...LOL
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#11
Hey Bro. Have you tried the Mustad 9174 hooks??? They are bronze, flat on the sides and just a little offset to them for a positive hookset. The 9175 are identical except for one thing. They are for saltwater.

These #s are not circle hooks but an offset shank hook. I still use circle hooks for certain species but I have found that just about anything you baitup for could be yours!
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