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Just spooled my spin cast up with new 10lb p-line.
When i cast or give the reel slack it comes shooting off in a big mess. I let it all out and stretched it, thought it might be twisted so tried that. No luck. i was thinkin i over spooled it but it does it no matter how much line i have out. Could it be that it is old line that sat on the shelf to long? Its got me puzzled! P-line says it has low memory, maybe there full of it.
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usually 10 pound is too stiff this is were i got trilene xl it a lot limper then the xt model. the xt that is stiff always does what you just said i would re spool it with xl or ultra green from maxima. i have had good luck with them in Michigan.
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[cool][#0000ff]One possibility is that you put it on the spool wrong. If you wind it on a spinning reel by reeling against a spinning line spool...like a baitcast reel...it will develop twists. Ditto if you set the spool flat but reel it off the wrong side.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]A good way to know if you are reeling it on wrong is to stop after a few turns and give ti some slack. If it kinks up or boils off the spool you need to turn the line spool over and reel the line on from the other side.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Pline should not do that.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Possibly the best fix after you have spooled up your line is to get out in a boat and let all the line off your reel behind the boat. Then hold it between your fingers as you reel it back in. That will put it on the spool under tension and take out all the twists. [/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]You can do the same thing by backing up across a big lawn in the park...with no hooks or anything on the end of the line. You can have somebody hold the end until you are ready to start reeling and then respool to take out the twists.[/#0000ff]
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[quote TubeDude][cool][#0000ff]One possibility is that you put it on the spool wrong. If you wind it on a spinning reel by reeling against a spinning line spool...like a baitcast reel...it will develop twists. Ditto if you set the spool flat but reel it off the wrong side.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]A good way to know if you are reeling it on wrong is to stop after a few turns and give ti some slack. If it kinks up or boils off the spool you need to turn the line spool over and reel the line on from the other side.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Pline should not do that.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Possibly the best fix after you have spooled up your line is to get out in a boat and let all the line off your reel behind the boat. Then hold it between your fingers as you reel it back in. That will put it on the spool under tension and take out all the twists. [/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]You can do the same thing by backing up across a big lawn in the park...with no hooks or anything on the end of the line. You can have somebody hold the end until you are ready to start reeling and then respool to take out the twists.[/#0000ff][/quote]
+1 i remember hearing the same thing just was not thinking of it
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[quote TubeDude][cool]
[#0000ff]Possibly the best fix after you have spooled up your line is to get out in a boat and let all the line off your reel behind the boat. Then hold it between your fingers as you reel it back in. That will put it on the spool under tension and take out all the twists. [/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]You can do the same thing by backing up across a big lawn in the park...with no hooks or anything on the end of the line. You can have somebody hold the end until you are ready to start reeling and then respool to take out the twists.[/#0000ff][/quote]
But he did mention that he had taken it off the spool and stretched it. Was that with the line full length and then wound up or put back on another spool and reeled up under tension?
Spin casting and underspin reels won't hold anywhere near the total line a spinning or baitcasting reel will. Several times I have had to cast, reel, look for wads, cast again, cut off 20 yards of line, and repeat until it just stopped doing it.
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I use p-line for all of my finess jigging. Its good line with low memory and good sensitivity. I will fish a 1/16 jig down to 30+ ft with no problems. Like TD said. Try turning your spool.
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i had never had a promblem with p line thats all i used.you have spool the line on to loose
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[cool][#0000ff]Yes, there are several factors that could contribute to the problem. I suspect that the diameter of the line spool on the reel might be just a bit small for 10# line...of any type. Unless it is one of the larger model spincast reels especially designed for bass or catfish...with large spools...you can overpower them with heavier line than they are designed for.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Overfilling the spool is a common foul-up that many anglers experience...especially when they do it themselves with only minimum experience. We all want to get the most bang for the buck...or make sure the reel is full so we don't have to fill up as often. But unless you leave a bit of space between the lip of the spool and the line you will get more "boil-offs".[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]It pays to know your reel and to be confident and comfortable with the line you are using. Any time you change brands and/or strength of the line you are subject to some "surprises".[/#0000ff]
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The only spincasters that come to mind are made by Daiwa and Zebco. Those typically have small spools and I think that is what TubeDude is referring too. Is this what you put your new line on? I made the mistake of buying a small spool spinning reel that was really intended for ice fishing but someone convinced me that it would be fine to use for soft water. The 6 lb test I was using was fine for vertical jigging but once you tried to cast the stupid thing it displayed the behavior you are describing. I retired it from soft water, used it to nuke crappie/gills/white bass/largemouth through the ice this past season and bought a bigger Okuma Epixor which I love.
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I have had the same problem with P-line. I put some 6lb on my ultra light rod last year and it would come flying off the spool, and I know how to put line on a spinning reel. I will never buy it again.
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What brand of line do you prefer TD?
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All P-line is not equal. I used the extra tough stuff and HATED it, way to stiff, way too much memory. I switched to the P-line premium and loved it, super limp, super tough and casts much better because it's thinner than about anything out there as far as mono goes. Then i switched to braided line and I'll never go back to mono, braided is too good.
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What kind of braid do you prefer? I've never had a good experience braided lines. I'd like to figure them out, as many people seem to love them.
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P-line is the ultimate mono in my opinion. But for my fishing style, 4lb. CXX X-tra Strong in Moss Green performs the best for throwing light jigs. It's a bit pricy, but I've found nothing better.
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[quote WyomingMoose]What brand of line do you prefer TD?[/quote]
[cool][#0000ff]I don't troll and I don't do a lot of deep jigging for large fish...so I do not use braid...ever.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]I use 4# for ice fishing and for stringing my lighter rods for perch, white bass, crappies etc. I use 6# on my medium lights and even mediums...for walleyes, bass and even light catfishing. I use 8# for my catfish rods. Rarely spool with anything heavier.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]My opinion is that it is super clear, low memory, good knot strength and very abrasion resistant. I always get plenty of hits...low visibility. I get positive hooksets...low stretch. I have never had a fish break a knot and I have never had the line break on a fish...period. That includes landing fish upwards of 30 pounds on 6# line. It also includes landing pike and tiger muskies on 6# line with the lures down inside their mouths...past the teeth...and not using wire.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]The diameters are comparable to other lines in the same strength ratings but Excalibur is tough. I have trouble breaking off on snags when I am in my float tube. In fact, it is almost impossible to break off the 8# line when I hang up while fishing for cats.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Not a miracle line but it works for me...and I know quite a few other Utah anglers who have come to use it and appreciate it.[/#0000ff]
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One thing to remember with open faced spinning reels, tiny or otherwise, is that it's much better to manually close the bail instead of turning the handle to close it. This really helps reduce the problem of tangles on the cast.
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I do a lot of bass fishing with the occasional wiper trolling trip thrown in so i've been using 10lb fireline with P-line premium 10lb as a leader. Haven't had a chance to try out a lot of braids yet but I have a buddy that really wants me to try powerpro, says it blows fireline away so i'll probably give it a try. The CXX extra tough stuff I used and hated so much was in a 10lb and I still think the stuff is junk and the Premium stuff is amazing.
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[quote wormsinker]When i cast or give the reel slack it comes shooting off in a big mess.[/quote]
I bought an ultralight spinning rod last year and was stoked to set it up for panfishing.
I bought some fancy-shmancy flourocarbon line for it... and all it does is uncoil right off the spool. I did everything I could to remedy the problem - with no success.
I'll be switching it to a light-gauge braid with a flourocarbon leader.
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I tried plenty of flouros, monos, copolymers, braids, etc. TD introduced Silver Thread Excalibur to me and another BFT'er BigFishTaco a while back. We broke down and started using it and haven't looked back. I used 4# for ice fishing and on my ultralight rig, 6# on everything else. A big male cat I caught last year from my tube was caught on 4# excalibur (dang thing ate my jig while fishing for gills!). No breakages. The only problem is trying to find the 4# in stores...
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the reel is a mitchell avocet i just looked at it and it is a little small for 10lb test, however i have spooled it up before with that lb of line of a different brand and it worked fine. I have let all the line out swapped the line over everywitch way possible numerous times and reeled it back in with tension and havnt had no luck at all.
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