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Just got plain sick and tired of chasing down planer boards from 1. They pop off in waves 2. Fish-on pops them off...so pimped out our planers with OR18 pad and #4 Duo-Lock clips...boards have yet to come undone and for us to back track and retreive them...including so much easier to use...
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Very nice. Where did you get the OR18 pads?
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I'm just starting into Planar boards and have been frustrated by the same things.
Can you take a picture of one "rigged and ready"
Thanks!
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[quote pezvela]Very nice. Where did you get the OR18 pads?[/quote]
Here's the link to Off Shore Tackle this is where I got the upgraded releases:
[url "http://www.offshoretackle.com/OR18.html"]http://www.offshoretackle.com/OR18.html[/url]
[quote MasterDaad]I'm just starting into Planar boards and have been frustrated by the same things.
Can you take a picture of one "rigged and ready"
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I'll try to get ya a picture but won't be on water as we're basically done with the softwater for this season.
Planer boards are pretty straight forward to rig up just put line in front release then in back release leaving a little line slack between releases. With the OR18 you just push down and they lock with the other releases you have to squeeze them put line in again leaving a little line slack between releases.
Finally it's vitally important to know what depth you want the lure to run. Knowing what the dive chart is for your lure is a critical aspect of using planers. Knowing the dive chart allows you to put the lure out X amount of feet then attach planer boad to get the lure down to the depth you want taking into consideration line diameter and boat speed. I'll try and get you a pic of the planer attached to the line.
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I let someone borrow my copy of "Precision Trolling" and now it appears it is no longer available.
How do you determine the distance back from the rigger?
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[quote pezvela]I let someone borrow my copy of "Precision Trolling" and now it appears it is no longer available.
How do you determine the distance back from the rigger?[/quote]
We use Diawa Sealine reels with line counters for trolling. So we'll let X amount of line out for the lure with a known dive chart on the reel counter. Once we get say 50' out we'll lock the reel connect the Planer at the rod tip. Then let another 20-30' out to get planer out from side of boat and away from the other lines we're trolling without a planer. We'll troll 4 lines most of the time.
Most of the lures we use have dive charts available from the maker of the lure. Including these dive charts will tell pound test of line and trolling speed for said lure. For lures that don't have dive charts we'll let out X amount of line out and find a long flat and troll over at varying speeds to get an approximate dive chart and make our own dive charts for said lure(s).
Also when we know the dive chart we'll put out X amount of line and again find a flat or go shallow and watch the planer or rods without planer to see when the lures tic the bottom then adjust accordingly if needed.
Finally and very important with any reel you want the reel spool full of line. Reels that aren't full you won't be at the line out you believe you're at. Hope this answers your question.
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It absolutely does and thank you. Although I prefer to use my electric trolling motor and cast, there are many times that trolling is the best solution. Additionally my big motor will not go under about 1.7MPH which is fine except for a couple of applications such as bottom bouncing and trolling for kokanee, then I use the electric to troll.
Yuba is currently my favorite water with trophy pike being the quarry. I carry a very large selection of lures aboard the boat; floaters, suspending, count downs, and deep divers. I troll with planer boards occasionally because I can get them within inches of the shoreline.
where pike occasionally lay. So a shallow diver meets the need.
I see planer boards as a very valuable tool and I intend to modify my boards as you did yours and I thank you for the tip. In the spring the northerns will move into the shallow flats and I will have my boards ready and experiment with the depth the lures achieve. Keeping the board attached will eliminate much grief, for that I thank you again. Steve
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I am intrigued about your open water trolling. Over the years we have caught 100's of pike at Yuba, but never in water over 15' deep. The majority have come from water 6 to 8' or shallower. but I have never fished the deep water.
Many times while moving around the reservoir I see fish deep and suspended at 20', but have always assumed they were carp. Last week I put a couple of electric down riggers on the boat to see if they were indeed pike.Time will tell.
Your conclusion about seeing the bait differentiated from the prey species makes sense and I have caught a few fish trolling at 4.5 or faster, but it feels weird going that fast. When I have watched video of pike fishermen trolling, it appears that they are going very fast.
I am constantly changing up lures and speed, but will devote a day trolling fast and in the open water next year.
Our greatest success has come from working the structure with the trolling motor and casting floating or suspending jerk baits like Yo-Zuris, Rapalas and recently, suspending Luck E strike Rick Clunns. Rattle traps have also be a good lure. Also swim baits like Big Hammers have been producing and we rip them through the water while casting. I have caught lots of stripers on Powell trolling fast with swim baits so it makes sense that fast trolling will work on other specie.
Although one method and one bait will never be the answer I do appreciate that you are willing to share what you have learned. It will add to the accumulated knowledge that goes together to make a day on the water a success. Thank you! Steve
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We too have caught our share of toothie critters in water depths you indicated. We use all the techniques casting, trolling, working open water, working shallow water and have really taught ourselves a wealth of information by experimenting not only with the techniques but also lure selection and lure presentation. We've been very pleased with the results.
Yep trolling fast can throw one off a bit but again its making your offerings stand out from the plethora of bait. I also know with the lures we use a trolling slow the action on the lure isn't nearly the same.
Do you keep a log of your catches? We also do that and have been for numerous years. Our logs identify technique (casting or trolling), weather conditions (sunny, cloudy, partly cloudy etc), water temp, water color, water clarity, water depth, location, feet of line out if trolling, trolling speed, lure used. We also are working on tracking major and minor times. Placed all this information into a database and during the tweener time and dead of winter when we can't get out on the ice, this allows us to review and compare. We will also review when the season starts up again and throughout the season.
Alls I can say is one has to employ all the tackle box techniques one can think of. I really hope our paths cross sometime. Steve I do believe we share the same passion as we are hybrid chasers and you are a seasoned Pike chaser and as you know the Pike is a parent of the Tiger Musky so we do have a lot in common I believe.
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I find that you are using comprehensive logs is quite incredible. I wish I would have done that years ago. I have fished for pike in Alaska, Canada, Russia, the mid west and of course Utah. It was the appearance of trophy Pike in Yuba that lit my fire and it has almost consumed me since the first 20 pounder came in the boat several years ago.
I am getting old and have limited funds, but there have been many, many days I wanted to fish for tiger muskie on pine view and have closely watched the incredible growth rates of tigers on Joes Valley. All summer I planned on going to Joe's but when I finally found the time after a summer of fishing wounded warriors and kids with disabilities on my big boat, the ramps were closed so I will have to try again next year.
Being old allows one to be opinionated and I certainly am, especially when it comes to Pike and Yuba. with the high limits on pike that are proposed in the management plan and little or no protection of the big spawners, I fear that the great fishery we are experiencing is doomed. Time will tell and I hope I am wrong.
The bright thing I see is using tiger muskie as a management tool in waters like Joe's Valley. I believe that as more and more anglers experience a 20 pound fish smashing a lure and the adrenalin rush the fight entails, there will be a demand for improving the Esox fishery statewide. Unfortunately, I might not be here to see it.
For now all I can do is enjoy it and hope that I am wrong about the decline of the northern fishery in Yuba.
I too, hope our paths cross in the years ahead and I will have something that you can include in your data base. From this day forward I will keep a log on my days on the water. Forty years ago I did that when I was a fly fisherman and those logs went a long way to knowing when a particular hatch would come off on any of the waters I fished almost daily. I wished that I still had them to read even though I rarely fish with the long rod any more.
Thank you for your input and the time you have devoted to replying to an old fisherman's inquiries. I send my warmest regards to you and yours on this Thanksgiving holiday. Captain Steve Henline, founder Hand in hand Outdoors. [url "http://www.handinhandoutdoors.org"]http://www.handinhandoutdoors.org[/url]
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